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Old Jul 11th 2019, 05:48 PM   #41
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Originally Posted by Sherpa23 View Post
I'm not going to argue with your logic but I'd like to point out a couple of things.

1) I have ridden the V4R and the V4S back to back for about 20 miles each. I don't need to go into detail as others have done a better job but I found the V4R to be a superior bike in several key areas.

2) This is supposed to be the anniversary of the 916, one of the- if not THE- most important and iconic racing bike in Ducati history. You're going to slap the 916 name on as lower tier model, give it a neat paint job, put on the dry clutch, and call that "special?" Sorry, that's not right.

If you wanted a V4S all along and didn't want the Speciale (which are much cheaper on the used market right now, by the way) and this is more to your liking then I have no problem with that.

However, if you have an affinity for the 916 gen SPS, Corsa, and R models like I have then this bike falls so short of what I was so ready to buy. And they didn't have to reinvent the wheel. All they needed to do was a V4R motor, frame and suspension, gold magnesium wheels, this same painted S bodywork, and a race kit like what came with my superleggera. They could have done all of that for 40k and I would have taken the first one to hit US shores. Depreciation be damned. It would be an epic bike to own and ride and I'd have a very high spec V4 that I could pile up miles on and enjoy owning for years and years.

Instead, it's nothing worthy of a 916 Anniversary name and nothing close to a suitable "Fogarty edition," in my opinion (and my bank account's opinion). They dumbed it down instead of making it what it should have been.

Look, as I said, I have the right to change my mind later but at this point I think I am going to stay on the sidelines and hope Ducati makes something better.
Agreed on your first point for sure, no question the V4R is superior in pretty much every way. Only reason I prefer an S is longer term maintenance and reliability of a "less strung out" motor. I will USE this bike and rack up miles, it's not going to be a collector item for me.

Other points.. I mostly agree, for my own personal liking, I prefer the aesthetics and expected package of the Foggy over Speciale and Corsa. I am glad it is just an S motor though
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Old Jul 11th 2019, 05:50 PM   #42
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PS.. I'm glad you all don't like it. Hopefully I can negotiate a better discount since there will plenty of the 500 sitting around
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Old Jul 11th 2019, 06:01 PM   #43
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Agreed on your first point for sure, no question the V4R is superior in pretty much every way. Only reason I prefer an S is longer term maintenance and reliability of a "less strung out" motor. I will USE this bike and rack up miles, it's not going to be a collector item for me.

Other points.. I mostly agree, for my own personal liking, I prefer the aesthetics and expected package of the Foggy over Speciale and Corsa. I am glad it is just an S motor though
I think you made a great point and while i would personally prefer a more track bike focused machine i think you are the larger market.
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Old Jul 11th 2019, 10:20 PM   #44
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PS.. I'm glad you all don't like it. Hopefully I can negotiate a better discount since there will plenty of the 500 sitting around
hahaha I like the look, and i don't think they will have any trouble selling them.
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Old Jul 12th 2019, 03:50 AM   #45
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....something else will be coming.....maybe a v4SL
You can bet it will come! They hope to do it probably at the end of this year IF they win the WSBK championship
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Old Jul 12th 2019, 03:57 AM   #46
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Tomorrow is my birthday. Anyone want to buy it for me?
Happy Birthday!!!
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Old Jul 12th 2019, 04:46 AM   #47
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You can bet it will come! They hope to do it probably at the end of this year IF they win the WSBK championship
..i'd agree on that....and hope so too !!
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Old Jul 12th 2019, 05:44 AM   #48
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hahaha I like the look, and i don't think they will have any trouble selling them.
There are 100 coming into the states
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Old Jul 12th 2019, 10:39 PM   #49
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https://www.facebook.com/53019093036...9204910461669/

Here's some great pictures of the bike. I'm still unsure if it's a 1000cc or 1103cc motor?
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My local dealer just confirmed that it's the 1103cc motor.

So it's basically a V4S with a paint scheme, some nice Rizoma parts, dry clutch and the magnesium wheels. I reckon it looks really good, but not sold on that exhaust.
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