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Old Sep 6th 2019, 05:36 AM   #1
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Please help me better understand Engine Braking Control (EBC) system

Hi folks,

From all the setting on the bike I found EBC to be the hardest to understand and maybe to feel as well. Maybe to understand because at first, reading the manual, one can get easily confused between NO engine brake =/=EBC off.

Clearly EBC level 3 is as close to no engine brake and to my understanding people that track it favor this setting more because it allows for easier corner entry (more stable) and even somehow mid corner. For mid corner I don't yet fully grasp the implications but for corner entry I get it as it makes sense little to no engine brake would make the back more stable even with a slippery clutch under heavy braking, although in theory it might make the braking less "efficient" right? Please correct me if I'm wrong!

As for street use, some swear that going EBC 1, for more engine brake or even EBC off (it's still weird to say it) it proves to be the safer choice. But at the same time if you do let's say 90% of the riding on streets, wouldn't more engine brake put more strain on the engine? Or it would be insignificant?

Care to share your thoughts?

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Old Sep 6th 2019, 06:23 AM   #2
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Its very individual and whatever suits your style. I only track mine and have it at EBC1, I'd turn it off if I could like I did on my 1199r. Some prefer wheels in line and smooth, I use engine braking as a rear brake to get it turned.
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Old Sep 6th 2019, 07:09 AM   #3
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Its very individual and whatever suits your style. I only track mine and have it at EBC1, I'd turn it off if I could like I did on my 1199r. Some prefer wheels in line and smooth, I use engine braking as a rear brake to get it turned.
You can turn off the EBC on the V4.
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Old Sep 6th 2019, 09:54 AM   #4
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Originally Posted by The Avidmoto View Post
You can turn off the EBC on the V4.
V4R- you cannot
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Old Sep 6th 2019, 10:05 AM   #5
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V4R- you cannot
Wow! I stand corrected. I have a Speciale. I wonder why Ducati decided to remove the options of 3, 2, 1 & off.
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Old Sep 6th 2019, 10:16 AM   #6
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No idea, R is just 3,2,1. So I just changed out clutch springs to give it a little more braking.
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Old Sep 6th 2019, 03:57 PM   #7
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I race and track mine, but prefer EBC 1. The engine braking kinda helps with trail braking into the turns. /Shrug

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Engine braking happens when you downshift and the RPMs go higher from the rear wheel speeding up the engine. This has a natural braking effect on the bike, but can be unsettling to the bike. The EBC helps mitigate this. Level 1 is minimum intervention by the computer, so engine braking is still there. Level 3 is maximum intervention, so there will be very little engine braking.

The racers like level 2 or 3 for more corner entry speed and stability. On the street, engine braking does help with overall braking. It won't hurt the engine. Just be careful, because if you downshift too fast the rev limiter won't protect from mechanical over-rev. At least on the older bikes. Hope this helps.
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Old Sep 7th 2019, 05:16 AM   #9
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...if you turn it off....you'll need a seat belt

(on the twins...your results may vary on the v4)
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Old Sep 7th 2019, 07:50 AM   #10
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Originally Posted by RD16RR View Post
...if you turn it off....you'll need a seat belt

(on the twins...your results may vary on the v4)
off like EBC off?
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