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Old Oct 30th 2019, 04:34 AM   #41
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Old Oct 30th 2019, 05:30 AM   #42
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I really like the look of the 2020 shark gill vents, and last time on the track my leg blew off my 2019 foot peg during a sloppy shift at 160 mph... so the wider fairing probably does help track performance. I feel certainly though that my 2019 V4 will provide plenty of fun and room for rider growth, and I'm happy as heck with it. Deliberating between V4 versions is a good problem to have.
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Old Oct 30th 2019, 09:14 PM   #43
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Iíd like to thank Ducati for adding wings to the V4S as this makes my decision not to buy one very very easy. If I get a Ducati V4 I will find some dude that thought he could handle such a bike and realizes he doesnít have time to ride and he sells it to me cheap. Itís that or Iím back on a Aprilia :-).
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Old Oct 30th 2019, 11:38 PM   #44
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Originally Posted by chillo View Post
Had a v4s last year, traded into v4r this year and have done nearly 5k on it. The v4r is a truly epic bit of kit!
@chillo- Great video. Like you, I see the R's value within competition...fast revving, top end, cooling capacity, wind protection, winglets, and many other improvements. I'm sure its sublime. Curious to hear your opinion if the bikes were relegated to street use only, what would your honest preference be? Would you not miss the additional displacement and torque curve of your V4S?


Originally Posted by FlatlineEF9 View Post
Now i have a 1 year old bike that looks dated because it doesn't have widebody and canards (car speak).

In my opinion they should have waited a year or two before doing it... why cant they be more like Aprilia and release the same looking bike for 10 years straight?
While I agree on many of your points, be happy with what you've got. Myself and many others do not prefer the update, so calling your V4 "dated" at this point is neither fair or accurate. In terms of rideable art, few preferred the 999 "update" over the 916; succession is not always progression.

Blasphemy! The RSV4 is a peach and a testament to the timelessness and capability of that platform...But I'd rather see change, for better or worse, than to see our superbike segment stagnate like that machines aesthetics. A quick glance at the progression of the 600cc market might change your mind.
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Old Oct 31st 2019, 01:49 AM   #45
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I think the new bikes look really cool, guarantee wings will be loved or ignored after a week of owning one

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Old Oct 31st 2019, 04:25 PM   #46
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I’m sure you could just buy the 2020 fairing and put them on with the current v4 fairings to get you the same look if you so desire.
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Old Oct 31st 2019, 05:08 PM   #47
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I like the gills. Gives it a more aggressive look. I'm sure it helps with airflow n all that functional crap but i don't care about that. The wings on the other hand, I'm not crazy about. The v4s 2 posts up minus the wings.....killer!
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It might just be my bias since I bought an older model, but the gills to me make the bike look more generic, similar to the gills on the old s1000rr. The styling is following, not leading.

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Old Oct 31st 2019, 10:18 PM   #49
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No doubt about it, the V4R is definitely more aggressive.

I've been admiring MV Agusta's as of late, and they had me thinking back to my college years. Quite a few of my elective credits were art courses and design principles. By no stretch of the imagination does that qualify my perspectives, I'm just a putz with an motorcycle obsession...but I find these topics fascinating. I mention the MV's and some of my background because it show's just how differently people perceive the world they live in, in a good way. Its entirely subjective, as is art and motorcycle design preference.

Yet sometimes its difficult to relate to or understand opposing perspectives. When I look at a 1098/1198 and 1199/1299, I can see the body lines in the side fairing and radiator exhaust vents. I see a fluid, well thought out design. Conversely, the exhaust vents or "gills" of the V4R are lost on me, they simply seem out of place. The entire side fairing appears flat, lacking the depth of its predecessor.

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Old Nov 1st 2019, 01:34 AM   #50
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wide fairings



Wings!



Looking at that, Id say there was a fair bit of desmosidici in the 2020 bikes
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