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Old Nov 17th 2017, 03:41 PM   #11
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Originally Posted by RRnold View Post
Since you're planning on doing the school, I would suggest doing a weekend event. 1 day will get your feet wet absorbing everything in. On day 2, you will be more relaxed and focused which can help you apply more of those drills.



Aside from that, a good set of tires, a proper suspension setup at the track and quality gear would be a great starting point.



With new gear, factor in time of breaking it in, hence seat time. Since it's new and stiff, it can fatigue you; you hand web from the gloves, your arches from new boots, wearing the armor in the suit etc. Full gear adds about 10-15 extra lbs and when it's new, it's tough to move around on the track.


Interesting you say that about the two day event as I was thinking the same thing about it. The cost quadruples, but every information outlet Iíve ever read puts the best investment in training. I just feel that cost will set me back on my timeline of riding my own bike on track. Still probably worth it though right?


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Old Nov 17th 2017, 03:44 PM   #12
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Originally Posted by BTrain5489 View Post
Since you already said instruction and seat time...

Spend the necessary time/money to get your bike's ergonomics set up in a way that makes you comfortable. Everything is easier and makes much more sense if your bike's ergos allow you to interact with it comfortably.

After you have a reasonable grasp of the basics pay to have a suspension tuner spend some time with you to get a baseline setup for your bike. I highlight the fact that it's a baseline setup because it will need to change as your pace improves but at least you'll have a reference for how the bike should feel.


Thanks for this input, I never spent too much time thinking about ergonomics as a place to invest. I never ridden with rearsets so I feel like I perhaps donít know what Iím missing or what an improvement would feel like. Iím pretty comfortable in the Panigale as it is.


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Old Nov 17th 2017, 05:32 PM   #13
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Interesting you say that about the two day event as I was thinking the same thing about it. The cost quadruples, but every information outlet Iíve ever read puts the best investment in training. I just feel that cost will set me back on my timeline of riding my own bike on track. Still probably worth it though right?
There are multiple ways of looking at it but it really depends on the person/type of rider. The students that I have seen at the schools vary from new riders (less than a year with an M1), those who have been riding on the street and are looking to take it to the next level by riding on the track and those who have adequate track experience and are looking for coaching tips and techniques to help improve.

This was only one approach but if you're on a budget, I would focus on seat time first. Then when you're starting to feel more comfortable with your bike on the track, take the 1 day course to help hone your skills.
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1. Tire pressures
2. Tire warmers- go out and be up to pace
3. Study tracks and hit your personal brake markers and apexes consistently
4. Rider coaching
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Old Nov 18th 2017, 12:51 AM   #15
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I have an 899 and wondering about getting track fairings/sliders and such for bike prep.


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Not at this stage, just concentrate on your track coaching and don't overthink it the tutors will guide you in what's best.
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Old Nov 18th 2017, 04:52 AM   #16
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Not at this stage, just concentrate on your track coaching and don't overthink it the tutors will guide you in what's best.


Thank you! Your wording articulates better what information Iím hoping to find.

I know thereís not just one way of acquiring all the necessary gear/items but Iím curious as to order of importance or stages as you put it. From what Iíve gathered so far from everyoneís input:

1. Mid-tier protective riding gear/ back-protector
2. Seat-time/patience learning the fundamentals
3. Ergonomics and suspension set up
4. Rider coaching

What else should I add to this list/preferably in order of financial investment priority?



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Old Nov 18th 2017, 06:54 AM   #17
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I suggest a real race school and if you can get a dedicated track bike. That way itís better run event and if you crash no big deal as itís a track bike. Lots of them come up for sale as things change and people get out of racing.
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My list:

1. Full suit/gear & back protector (doesn't have to be expensive)

2. Tires, preferably slicks w/warmers. (best insurance honestly) Be very particular about tire pressures. Ask the tire vendor at the track, they are pretty knowledgeable and can get you lined out. Different tires from diff manf. have vastly different pressure setups.

3. Take your time. Don't rush. Do as much as you can ahead of time so you can just focus on the day. I like to have my tires mounted before I even head out there. Saves having to rush in the morning or stress waiting on the tire vendor to get through everyone.

4. Just get out there and get seat time. The more relaxed you are, the better it will be. First time out, don't ride over your head or go into the red mist zone.. Also, I wouldn't necessarily say coaching is a requirement the first time out. You're so busy with just trying to keep everything straight, it can be overload on your first day. Too much too soon = bad combo imo.

5. Have fun! Stop to smell the rubber.. enjoy yourself.
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Originally Posted by DCPanni View Post
I suggest a real race school and if you can get a dedicated track bike. That way itís better run event and if you crash no big deal as itís a track bike. Lots of them come up for sale as things change and people get out of racing.


Great ideas, do you recommend any particular schools?


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Old Nov 20th 2017, 09:10 AM   #20
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Nick Ienatsch of Cycle World fame runs a fantastic school, based on Freddy Spencer's championship-winning riding techniques:

https://ridelikeachampion.com/

My track and street riding skills improved using what I learned, and I have been riding for a couple of decades.

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