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Old Aug 25th 2015, 11:09 PM   #91
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What I'd really like to do is pull ALL the breather hoses, which requires capping off the hose nipples at each throttle body. But I'd need to know exactly what bolt fits (type, thread, length) to replace the nipple. Anyone know? The hose nipple part# is 81411113B, and it is used across the range of Ducatis.
I didn't like the idea of just having useless hoses in there either. I pulled it all and put rubber vacuum caps on the nipples at the throttle body. So much cleaner that way.
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Old Aug 26th 2015, 08:06 PM   #92
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ok, so I went through a few parts fiches and Ducati uses the same hose nipple for every model I checked (recent bikes).

So I went out and took some measurements - I used my wife's Monster as it has the easiest access.
- It is an M6 size, thread pitch 1.0, 8mm long. I confirmed this by chasing the threads in an M6x1.0 die, as well as screwing a M6x1.0 bolt I had on my workbench, which fit perfectly.
- the hole is 8.2mm long. The nipple's thread length with the washer is 6.67mm. So either way I guess it doesn't fit the hole completely. Although if someone were to use a 9mm long bolt, it would go flush with the inside, more or less.

So to completely delete the hoses, one just needs an M6x1.0 bolt, 8~9mm long. The washer is copper and reusable. Liberal use of loctite red would be a good idea.
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Old Aug 26th 2015, 08:08 PM   #93
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the charcoal breather hose, as attached to the throttle body, and the nipple with hose removed:
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Old Aug 26th 2015, 08:09 PM   #94
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the hose nipple, Ducati part#81411113B, and the port where it screws into:
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Old Aug 26th 2015, 08:11 PM   #95
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the M6x1.0 bolt I test fittted. It's too long to use as it's 16mm, but the exact same bolt at 8mm long will be perfect.
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Old Aug 29th 2015, 07:56 PM   #96
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ok, finally got to doing this on my 1299. I used titanium M6x1.00 8mm bolts, because, well, why not?

From the right side, undo the three bolts holding in the electronics tray, and you'll be able to access the rear cylinder. The hose and nipple are right in your face. 10mm socket to remove it. These were on fairly tight; on my Multi and my wife's Monster, they were VERY loose. I suspect these things might work loose over time. I reused the copper washer and with plenty of loctite, simply put the new bolt in:
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Old Aug 29th 2015, 08:00 PM   #97
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to get to the horizontal cylinder, the ABS pump cover needs to come off (two bolts). It's also very easy to access, although several hoses are in the way.

Once the screw is in, you can pull all the hoses out. On the 1299, this means unplugging that weird valve as well. I ziptied the harness side of the plug out of the way, after waterproofing it.

With the electronics tray off, it's really easy to see that the most elegant venting solution is to use a Y-connector up near the tank, and to just have a single hose run down to the vent nipple it attaches to on the bottom of the bike.
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Originally Posted by kismetcapitan View Post
to get to the horizontal cylinder, the ABS pump cover needs to come off (two bolts). It's also very easy to access, although several hoses are in the way.

Once the screw is in, you can pull all the hoses out. On the 1299, this means unplugging that weird valve as well. I ziptied the harness side of the plug out of the way, after waterproofing it.

With the electronics tray off, it's really easy to see that the most elegant venting solution is to use a Y-connector up near the tank, and to just have a single hose run down to the vent nipple it attaches to on the bottom of the bike.
I was completely OK with leaving the hose on my bike until I saw this post. Needless to say, my Panigale is now charcoal nipple free.
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Old Feb 24th 2016, 05:03 PM   #99
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I removed the charcoal canister earlier and am confused by the description in the OP's post. It seems I'm supposed to extend and vent the hose that's going into the larger cap-looking thing on the charcoal canister and cap the one going into the smaller cap-looking thing in the charcoal canister. That seems pretty straightforward per the photos posted. However, the description says the line from the gas tank had a larger inside diameter compared to the other(to be capped) and this is not true on my 1299S. It's actually the other way around. So which should I go with? Cap the one that has the smaller inside diameter? Or the one that was connected to the smaller cap-looking thing on the charcoal canister?
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Old Feb 24th 2016, 08:21 PM   #100
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Hey Izzy, I'd stick to the diagram and not the size of the hose. 1299 hoses must be different than the 1199, but I'm guessing the charcoal canister remains the same design.
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