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Old Jul 12th 2013, 02:15 PM   #11
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I feather the brakes with one finger stock.
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Old Jul 12th 2013, 02:21 PM   #12
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You love your setup because mentally you paid for an upgrade thinking it was an upgrade. I have tried it with an 19 mated to the m50 - its horrid. Its a rock hard setup with zilch for feel. A lot if people like hard brakes but not if you can't feel /modulate it and that's what happens.

It is a real /bad/ idea with the mismatched ratios.
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Old Jul 12th 2013, 02:40 PM   #13
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I don't get it either but if you like it man, go ahead and lighter up and enjoy!
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Old Jul 12th 2013, 05:23 PM   #14
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not quite sure what to say... i think my setup is just about as perfect as i can get. I love it.. way way more then oem

still dont get the rotor thing tho
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Old Jul 12th 2013, 05:45 PM   #15
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Originally Posted by ducducgoose9987 View Post
not quite sure what to say... i think my setup is just about as perfect as i can get. I love it.. way way more then oem

still dont get the rotor thing tho
because everyone who has put an RCS "upgrade" on thinks its "perfect" because they spent the money for the upgrade. Brembo has published an ideal cross section and basically has said - its wrong and mismatched that tells a different story. . .

In terms of rotors - the T-drive rotors are a better compound than the stock rotors. Slightly higher coefficient of friction (like the HPK discs are better than stock as well) and when he says "smaller" - he's talking from 330 to 320mm - which is minimal and only involves removal of the caliper spacer to get the original caliper to fit. If you think there is a huge difference between 330 and 320 - you're sorely mistaken.

I always recommend if you want to ugprade your brakes on the panigale to go to the HH sintered or the Brembo Z04. After that, changing the caliper/MC combo is a very good upgrade and finally the disc.

However, in terms of you changing the MC but not the caliper and him changing the rotor disc - the overall improvement in braking is definitely with just the rotors being changed. But if you like it - go ahead and stick with it. Enough people know about this that its definitely not something most would want to undertake.
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not really looking to start a conflict between right and wrong gentlemen. I did not go into the details while posting my first pictures on the T-Drive conversion. However, if you look closely at the calipers, they are not the M50's. I have also at his time installed the RCS brake master, FGRT 211 complete ohlins forks which are a 1098/1198 item. For my own taste, woodcraft clip-ons and a completely different steering dampener set up. Those who truly understand the bike will know the why we sometimes are left with no choice when we start one project and it turns into several. In closing, I do not find the abs a terrible add on. I simply don't like it and when deciding between not owning a bike or making a few changes...well, I would rather own the bike. I ride several bikes at the track and the most important thing in my mind, would be the consistency in the equipment. If all the bikes do not have traction control, abs, quick shift and such, and yes, I have completely removed the DES suspension from my bike. The rear now has a DU930 Mark ll with a on the shock preload adjuster. I think you get my point.
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Old Jul 13th 2013, 05:08 PM   #17
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Yes that looks to be a gp4-rr or rx. So that's mated properly to an RCS - which is a pretty decent upgrade. ....
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Old Jul 13th 2013, 10:07 PM   #18
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So your bike is an R with DES and ABS removed?
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So your bike is an R with DES and ABS removed?
Wouldn't it have been better to get a base and then modify it to this extent? I guess if its an R than the you would get the Ti internals and lightened flywheel for the serious track machine.
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You are right. The only reason I purchased the model I did was for the internals. After selling of the items I removed, price point is similar to an S model. Never liked the Termi's. They alone fetched 2,500.00 for an unopened box. I just kept the up map key for the Akro pipe.
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