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Old Aug 28th 2014, 10:11 AM   #51
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I want to see the Full termi with RB already tuned (Auto tune I guess). should be superior to the slip ons +RB shouldnt it?
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Old Aug 28th 2014, 10:13 AM   #52
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I want to see the Full termi with RB already tuned (Auto tune I guess). should be superior to the slip ons +RB shouldnt it?
We had one customer had 179 or 182 at the rear wheel sae hp. I will try to find the dyno chart....
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Old Aug 28th 2014, 10:25 AM   #53
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Yeah, I care more about the middle range, any chance of a before and after?
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Old Aug 28th 2014, 07:52 PM   #54
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Dyno Comparison - RapidBike Race self-tuning vs. Termignoni Slip On Up-Map

Just got back from the Orlando Cycle Gear bike night. Horst Performance was there doing dyno runs with his factory-supported Dynojet 250ix (he was the long-time dyno instructor at MMI in Central FL). I had my 2012 1199 run several times to get a very clear picture of what the RapidBike adds performance-wise over just using the supplied Termignoni Up-Map.

Below is the results of a back-to-back dyno run, where the Red Line is a dyno run with the RapidBike Race fuel controller module enabled, and the Blue Line is a dyno run with a special bypass plug that reverts the ECU back to its pre-RapidBike state of tune, which in this case is the OEM ECU with the Termignoni Slip On Up-Map and latest update.

My bike has about 10,000 miles and the power mods are an MWR HE filter, Termignoni Slip Ons, Termignoni Up-Map, and RapidBike Race module with about 3,000 miles of street riding where it has constantly "learned" and "optimized" the AFR curve.

The first image includes the horsepower curves with AFR ratios below. The second image focuses on the horsepower curves, with the 10 rwhp gain called out to give a sense of scale to the differences in the curves.




The absolute numbers are not the story here, as it was quite hot and humid out tonight. Instead, this was done to show the absolute difference between using only the Termignoni Up-Map, and then the Rapidbike Race module with some time for it to self-optimize and further improve performance.

This is obviously a massive improvement, and required no manual "tuning" by a dyno operator to achieve these results. The RapidBike Race module is simply using signals received from the OEM narrow-band O2 sensors to make real-time adjustments to the AFR curve and keep it as close to stoichiometric as possible. Of course, once you do a dyno run like this you can make fine adjustments to optimize even further which is what I will do now to hopefully make even more gains in the midrange.

This is the difference between using only the relatively generic Termignoni Slip On Up-Map, which appears overly rich since it has to work with a range of 1199's in the field at all altitudes/weather conditions/fuels, and with the RapidBike Race system that tunes your bike with your mods in your conditions. I believe I would have gotten the same results had I not used the Termignoni Up-Map but I decided to leave it in when the RapidBike Race module was installed.
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Old Aug 28th 2014, 07:56 PM   #55
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looks awesome!
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Old Aug 29th 2014, 05:01 AM   #56
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Aweome results Jeff. I wish I could have ran my bike, but after hearing and seeing all the things that needed to be done to get a pull, I didn't feel like pulling the plastics off the bike. You may want to include the bulletin about dynoing the Panigale so that others know about it as well. Here is a pic of Jeff's bike in the dyno.
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Old Aug 29th 2014, 11:29 AM   #57
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Not to hijack the thread but great meeting you guys last night! Very interesting results.
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Old Aug 29th 2014, 01:25 PM   #58
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Not to hijack the thread but great meeting you guys last night! Very interesting results.
Likewise Dan!
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Old Aug 29th 2014, 03:58 PM   #59
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I did put the Rapid Bike on two bikes and both run perfect, one of the bikes was just simply not tunable at all since it's a build motor, the Rapid Bike unit fixed that problem now.

Rapid Bike has my vote!
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Old Sep 6th 2014, 05:15 PM   #60
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My Rapid Bike Race just installed today. I need to run it for 200 miles and I will be back with some feed back.......
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