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Old Feb 17th 2015, 08:12 PM   #21
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This kit will make the wheelbase shorter and bring the front wheel in closer to the radiator .
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Old Feb 17th 2015, 08:28 PM   #22
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Right... Hence my interest in the headstock spacers that will be used in the 2015 R which keep the same steeper rake angle, but shifted forward 5mm
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Old Feb 18th 2015, 02:11 PM   #23
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The 899 also has a rake angle of 24, but I don't know which pivot hight compared to 1199.

According to Ducati Website, the rake Angle of 1199 is 2450' which is 24.83333


Anyway, if you increase the rear ride hight by 10mm, the rake angle will decrease by appr. 0.5 or 30', just for info.

So by inreasing the right high by 10 mm (compared to stock setting) you also get an increased agility. I did it on my 1199S (with adjusting the shock length on the blue nut) and I'm fully happy with the handling (stree use only).
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Old Mar 16th 2015, 02:21 PM   #24
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Part numbers for 24 degree kit

Part #'s, two (2) ea.:
75610361AA
70241241A
93041911A
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Old Sep 29th 2015, 12:04 PM   #25
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Brilliant,
Glad I found this thread.

Dealer told me I would need to get the old inserts/bushings very, very hot to remove them. Which dint fancy doing.

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Old Sep 29th 2015, 01:04 PM   #26
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Originally Posted by Doug916SP View Post
I'm not advocating this change for any model other than the "R" because of the ability to adjust the swingarm to replicate the 2015 models (ie. 24 deg. rake and -4mm swingarm).

In my ride report I stated that I'm running -2mm on my swingarm, partly because that's where I had it before the install of the 24 degree rake kit and partly because I like a quick steering bike.

The 2012-2014 base and "S" have what would be 0 degree swingarm position. Putting this kit in a Base or S would result in VERY Quick steering and maybe a tendancy for front-end-tuck.

Sorry I didn't make this clearer. This kit is sold for track use.

Good sir, without wanting to ask for too much considering what you have done for humanity, would it be possible one day for you to run the 0 swingarm pivot and report back how it differs and if the handling is bad/acceptable/good?

For science...
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Old Sep 29th 2015, 01:56 PM   #27
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So on a non "R" model, this would not be advisable for the street I assume because of the lack of swing-arm adjustment..correct?
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Old Sep 29th 2015, 02:40 PM   #28
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Installing the 24 degree kit w/pics

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So on a non "R" model, this would not be advisable for the street I assume because of the lack of swing-arm adjustment..correct?

The 2 geometry changes can compliment each other.

But no, one will work just fine without the other.


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Getting the top plate in was a breeze, the lower was not enjoyable at all
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Old Sep 30th 2015, 12:25 AM   #29
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This the story on the '15R bushing

Add #2015 Panigale R Secret Revealed?

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As you may remember, I documented (w/photos) my install of the 24 degree bearing housings in my 2013 Pani R. The results were a great improvement in all handling areas.

But, since I’m a curious sort, the description of the ’15 R as having 5 mm increase wheelbase caught my eye. Did the factory change the triples? If so, wouldn’t this slow down the handling while promoting greater high speed stability? And … how could I do this for my bike?

Here are the parts from the microfiche for the 2015:

They do move the upper and lower housings forward 5 mm as expected…..but, and here is the “secret”: the new fork angle is 23.5 degrees!!!!! NOT the 24 advertised!

HooHah! I probably won’t install them but they do use the sealed bearings rather than the “loose balls” of the originals.

I’m pleased with my 24 degree setup.
Here are '15R part #76510422AA
& #75610433AA
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Old Sep 30th 2015, 05:08 AM   #30
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DAMN IT!!!

More bloody money, Just realised the bush kit from dealer doesn't include new bearing cups or dust covers, so need to buy them now.
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