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Old Dec 20th 2017, 03:05 PM   #1
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Metal water pump gear and impeller blade

I've searched high and low for a source for these with no luck. I have access to a local aeronautical machinist who could replicate them in aluminum or steel, but before I go that route, does anyone know of a place where they can be purchased? This would be for a 2014 1199s.

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Old Dec 20th 2017, 04:06 PM   #2
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Old Dec 21st 2017, 12:37 AM   #3
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Ducati Corse make a metal water pump gear to replace the plastic one for the WSBK bikes, it has been said in another thread it cost about 600 for the gear, unfortunately I have not seen any part number metioned. The impeller blade I have not seen any one have in metal.

Also mentioned in another thread about the water pump gear in metal, it was quoted from a Ducati tech:

The reason they are plastic is where they WILL break in a situation where everything locks... If they were metal and everything locked there would be no"give" and the engine case would bust.
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Old Dec 21st 2017, 01:43 AM   #4
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The reason they are plastic is where they WILL break in a situation where everything locks... If they were metal and everything locked there would be no"give" and the engine case would bust.
I guess that makes sense but if it locks up you have bigger problems and the problem is their breaking without locking up already.

Imo they did it because it’s cheaper.

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Old Dec 21st 2017, 05:04 AM   #5
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I had the water pump idle gear failure this year, its not plastic because the water pump locks up, it wouldn't, less for a rock in the coolant, because a water pump does not require HD, plastic gears is fine for weight and noise, however, if you have one like mine I reckon the huge variation in engine temperatures cause mine to break up, result is now as it is today when in minus or cold temps I do not run the bike up as I use to in the winter so the motor does not go from 0 to 90 then back again to 0 degrees. I saw of one other on this forum I think it was Swedish again extreme temperatures.
Note on the noise, when I fitted new gears I noticed an increase in the engine gear noise, more so when cold, I bet metal gears kick out a lot more noise and thats been the problem with the Panigale for the Euro 3 and 4 regs.

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Ducati Corse make a metal water pump gear to replace the plastic one for the WSBK bikes, it has been said in another thread it cost about 600 for the gear, unfortunately I have not seen any part number metioned. The impeller blade I have not seen any one have in metal.

Also mentioned in another thread about the water pump gear in metal, it was quoted from a Ducati tech:

The reason they are plastic is where they WILL break in a situation where everything locks... If they were metal and everything locked there would be no"give" and the engine case would bust.
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Originally Posted by farmind View Post
I had the water pump idle gear failure this year, its not plastic because the water pump locks up, it wouldn't, less for a rock in the coolant, because a water pump does not require HD, plastic gears is fine for weight and noise, however, if you have one like mine I reckon the huge variation in engine temperatures cause mine to break up, result is now as it is today when in minus or cold temps I do not run the bike up as I use to in the winter so the motor does not go from 0 to 90 then back again to 0 degrees. I saw of one other on this forum I think it was Swedish again extreme temperatures.
Note on the noise, when I fitted new gears I noticed an increase in the engine gear noise, more so when cold, I bet metal gears kick out a lot more noise and thats been the problem with the Panigale for the Euro 3 and 4 regs.
Just going to weigh in here. I've ran my 899 Panigale down to 12*F outside temp and up to 228*F coolant temp near 100 degrees outside temp in the summer. I have almost 70,000 miles on it with no issue with the water pump or gears...

Is there something majorly different between the 899 and the 1199-959-1299 water pump designs??
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Old Dec 28th 2017, 08:31 AM   #7
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Mordor & Farmind that's good info. Perhaps keeping an eye on the plastic gears is the safer bet? I still prefer the idea of having an alloy gear over plastic though.
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Originally Posted by XCLR8TN View Post
Just going to weigh in here. I've ran my 899 Panigale down to 12*F outside temp and up to 228*F coolant temp near 100 degrees outside temp in the summer. I have almost 70,000 miles on it with no issue with the water pump or gears...

Is there something majorly different between the 899 and the 1199-959-1299 water pump designs??
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You have 70,000 miles on a Panigale ?? Typo I assume

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Originally Posted by XCLR8TN View Post
Just going to weigh in here. I've ran my 899 Panigale down to 12*F outside temp and up to 228*F coolant temp near 100 degrees outside temp in the summer. I have almost 70,000 miles on it with no issue with the water pump or gears...

Is there something majorly different between the 899 and the 1199-959-1299 water pump designs??
Fuk 70000 miles and no issues...... ur the lucky kinda guy who could screw every hooker in Africa and not get a desease

I have 3500 miles and mine leaks pink coolant ..... it goes in on Tuesday for a new water pump under warranty.

My take on the gears material is cost only, any Ducati rattles like mad when idling so I'm not sure plastic is chosen to reduce harmonies in the noise department

I ride the 1299 and I doubt it will give 20000 miles before it's on the rubbish heap so at 70k your a gifted one and very fortunate
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Old Dec 29th 2017, 02:36 PM   #10
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899/959 engines have much of the same 1199/1299 engine structure/strength, but with much less stress per the lower power levels. It will not be crazy to see 50k+ Mile 899/959 engines when properly maintained.

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