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Old Jan 3rd 2019, 07:18 PM   #11
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Personal experience only but the first 1299 I built, I did install the ABS and I have to say that there was little if any degradation in system "feel" over bike 2 which has no ABS. Bike 1 has rock solid lever modulation with ABS as does bike 2 without. That being said, neither bike retained any of the stock components. Bothe bike 1 and 2 have the same (XR01171) 19x18 Brembo GP front master. Both bikes have the same XA52130 GP rear master. Bothe bikes have the same Brembo XA7G210/211 front calipers and the same Brembo P2 34 Rear. Only difference on bike 1 was the addition of the ABS box and I did build all the lines for both bikes so it is possible to get excellent lever feel and a fairly precise system (positive lever feel) with ABS but it may be more difficult with the stock system. Also factored was the usual anal retentive attention to detail with regard to assembly and setup.
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Old Jan 3rd 2019, 09:52 PM   #12
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I just like the idea of changing the fluid knowing what is flushed out from the MC to the calipers is fresh . I've just changed my mc 18-20 (19mm) to a 16mm or was that 17 ? (beer time atm), and for me the feel was not as good, in that it felt spongey , didnt really feel more powerful either . Need to evaluate again next ride day .
Do like the idea of pissing the abs off though.
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Old Jan 4th 2019, 10:16 AM   #13
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That billet master looks very good,but personally going to keep the stock. Its the second,first got cracked inside and caused a crash. My local dealer report that they have alot of quality problems with those,much bikes have them also,thinking Endodoc isnt far away saying they're crap.
The problem for me is since doing trackdays only (and not many) all things break on the bike,battery exploding,oil & coolant leaks,quickshifter issues,map sensors failure bla bla.
Swapping bad parts,something else fail.. Endless cycle.. Going to keep what actually works at the moment!

Capdroids method in thread on abs delete 1199 12-14,works,i have no error codes.
Now sits upside down,as when pump is gone this give better clearance.
Also nearly 2kgs out...
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Old Jan 6th 2019, 07:40 PM   #14
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Thanks for all the info. So at the end of the day, do you think it's worthless for me to get this 19RCS if I don't delete the ABS? Am I better off sticking with the stock and looking into these delete methods?

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Old Jan 6th 2019, 08:30 PM   #15
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The 17RCS is what is matched to our callipers , not 19RCS
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Old Jan 7th 2019, 12:59 AM   #16
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Originally Posted by Calderara di Reno View Post
The 17RCS is what is matched to our callipers , not 19RCS
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Old Jan 7th 2019, 01:42 AM   #17
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That article was wrong, The 19mm piston pushes more fluid and the 17mm piston pushes less fluid per stroke distace but with more pressure .
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I didnít mention the math involved in selecting components. I started from scratch so I didnít have to match something with an existing component. Additionally, there is a preference factor on feel and modulation. Cost is a consideration as well and then there is the maintenance factor. High end stuff likes to be serviced and pampered which requires special tools, some skills and Brembo parts for the high end pieces are priced like Rolex parts. I looked at the RCS an another cast pump body with some adjustability to it. I didnít see it as an upgrade from a mechanical component perspective. I guess it boils down to what youíre looking for.
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Originally Posted by JackAttack View Post
Thanks for all the info. So at the end of the day, do you think it's worthless for me to get this 19RCS if I don't delete the ABS? Am I better off sticking with the stock and looking into these delete methods?
I dont think a higher spec pump is going to take that spongy feel away from you.
Many track panigales have the abs out nowadays,i think one of the reasons is the one you described.
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Old Jan 10th 2019, 01:06 PM   #20
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Originally Posted by Zelnik View Post
I dont think a higher spec pump is going to take that spongy feel away from you.

Many track panigales have the abs out nowadays,i think one of the reasons is the one you described.


Damn, thank you though. Could anyone direct me to this abs delete mod how to if there is one? I'd like to avoid installing new direct lines if possible.


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