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Old Jan 12th 2012, 02:41 PM   #1
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My friend just sent me this article about Casey Stoner talking about Valentino Rossi... what do you think?

Stoner Stings Rossi, Burgess
Thursday, December 29, 2011

Just ask anyone who crossed Mick Doohan or Mat Mladin: Hell hath no fury like a spiteful Aussie.

Casey Stoner showed the same Down Under venom during the holiday season, taking special delight in ruling MotoGP in his first season with Repsol Honda while supernova Valentino Rossi was winless for Ducati a year after Stoner won three races on the Desmosedici.

After he announced his decision to leave Yamaha for Ducati, Rossi criticized Stoner by saying it was impossible to measure the quality of the Desmosedici GP10 because Stoner wasn't pushing it hard enough. Rossi's longtime crew chief, Jerry Burgess, also said he could fix Ducati's persistent front-end troubles in 80 seconds.

Fast-forward one year. Rossi was winless for the first time in his 16-year Grand Prix career. And the unpredictable front end of the various flavors of GP11 confounded Burgess and the entire Ducati garage all season.

"The whole thing with Valentino saying I hadn't been pushing hard enough was nothing new," Stoner said. "At one stage, it was the Ducati was the best bike on the grid, and I had the best tires and everything else. This talk followed me and plagued me throughout my time at Ducati until Valentino got on the bike and showed that nothing different happened to when (Marco) Melandri got on the bike or Nicky (Hayden) got on it.

"I knew that when he got on the bike he was not going to be any faster than me. I was 100 percent sure of that. He complained about his shoulder injury at the start of the season, but he got his best result with his shoulder injury. As soon as his shoulder injury went, he got worse. The excuses didn't stop until the end of the season when they just had to start admitting that they didn't know what direction to go.

"The reason this championship does taste sweet has a lot to do with Valentino and Jerry and the criticism they gave us that we couldn't develop a bike and didn't know what we were doing. Clearly they are 10 times more confused than we ever were about what direction to go in."
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Old Jan 12th 2012, 04:25 PM   #2
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Right on lets face it the Ducati was a beast to ride and only Stoner got the results when nobody else knew what was going on and no matter what they all of them on the grid are the worlds best and we should take our hats off to them all.
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Old Jan 12th 2012, 05:29 PM   #3
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well put man! let's face it, stoners style looks like he is riding right on the edge all the time but when someone does it every time and gets the results he does it is hard to say anything bad about him. we all just pick our jaws up and go "how does he do that and make it look so easy!"
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Old Jan 12th 2012, 06:06 PM   #4
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If what we get on the street is a diluted philosophy from the factories Honda must be so sweet for Stoner going from a Ducati to a Honda .. do you ever read a bad report on a Fireblade but the duacti has to much torque or power to get down or whatever and therefore comes third because Duacti make beasts and Honda makes sublime handling packages or so it seems..and maybe Stoner is actually better than Rossi now... who knows..?
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Old Jan 12th 2012, 07:08 PM   #5
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Hats off to Stoner , he was the only one to tame the Ducati and ride it well beyond the limits where he found it would then work , no one else can get it there looking at riding styles maybe Marco S would have been able to ride it but that we will never know .

Rossi and Burgess came out with lots of statements about stoner the quick fix he wasnt trying etc etc etc , well now they just look stupid dont they they had more upgrades in one season than stoner had during his whole time at Ducati and went backwards as there year went on

i have a few mates that have never like Stoner before but they are all fans now watching his bike control is simply awesome

Rossi the so called GOAT will not win another championship guess he isnt as good as he thought he was
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Old Jan 12th 2012, 07:40 PM   #6
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I dont think you can sniff at 9 world championships just the same.
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Old Jan 13th 2012, 11:31 AM   #7
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I'm not going to bad-mouth Rossi. He's having trouble and I hope they can figure it all out.

But two years ago when Stoner was sick everybody started acting like he was the worst ever - the R1 forum named him "Stacey Moaner" and they constantly attacked him and all said his transition to Honda had no significance.

But I knew different, I knew that when Stoner got on a Honda he would Dominate and I said that on the Duc.ms forum before the season ever started.

Stoner was miraculous on the Ducati and unstoppable on the Honda. Who Knows, only 7 more GP world championships and he could catch up to Rossi?

But in the mean-time lets, for Stoner's sake, hope Rossi doesn't get back on a competitive bike.
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Old Jan 13th 2012, 01:36 PM   #8
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I recall, in an interview at the end of the 2010 season, when asked "What scares you the most?", Ben Spies' reply was "Casey Stoner on a Honda!!"

Give the Texan credit for knowing his competition.

As a loyal Ducatisti, I hope that Ducati and Rossi "pull one out of the bag" this year.
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Old Jan 13th 2012, 02:55 PM   #9
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I'm not a Rossi fan per say as have only been back on bikes for four years, one on a 900
ss and 3 on the 848 so is was Stoner on the Ducati for me and Nicki Hayden. I must admit I dont feel the same way about Ross and it doesnt look like a match made in heaven at all.
I would like to see him in the top 3 doing what he did on a Yamaha on a Ducati but it may well not be. Heres a thought and I wondered what you all think. Does a monocoque frame work at 200HP ie Bayliss saying this is the best bike I've ridden super stable on brakes ets and not work at 240HP?
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The reason I don't like Stoner has nothing to do with his ability to get around a race track quickly. He obviously is very fast and tamed the Ducati. I can't stand him because he sat out in the middle of the season for what was later labeled 'lactose interolance'. Pluuuuuueeeeeeaaaaasssssssseeeee! This is motorcycle racing for GAWDS SAKE! We expect people to ride when bloody, broken and beaten down.
I'll never forgive Pedrosa for crashing out Nicky when they were on the same team and almost cost him his only championship. I'll always respect Rossi for what he has accomplished (back to back championships on two different makes, multiple world titles in every class, etc.). But Rossi isn't the same young hungry man he used to be. He may never win again. He has spent time doing too many things other than bike racing, which tells me his heart isn't in it anymore. I hope he can rekindle the fire in his belly to go make that Ducati a winner.

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