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Old Sep 16th 2012, 02:24 PM   #1
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To My Fellow Members-

This will be my last thread for some time, and I will do something I usually do not do - talk about, myself. Sorry about it's length and conent my friends. None of this is meant to sound conceded or brag whatsoever. It is to dispel any myths or negative thoughts derived by words in which i have written within this very special forum. Those of you that know me here can attest that though outspoken and forward (like most East Coasters are-I'm originally from Connecticut) I have generally given sound advice based upon my 35 years of riding experience which is actually very vast.

At least ten of these years was racing competitively within the CCS club circuit on a Ducati and SV650. I almost made it into the single digit plate class before a life changing experience took place. My first racing school was hosted by the Wood family at the Penguin Roadracing school at Loudon, NH, and I attended numerous professional courses across the country. I have accumulated trophies, plaques, won money, had multiple sponsors, used every available race tire, race fuel, specialized racing parts, set of boots, gloves, leathers and helmets during this short career.

I have been the #1 Ducati Sales Rep on the East Coast (early 2000's) and attended swanky trips to their factories in Italy, banquets, and still have access to their programs before they hit the main stream market. Thankfully, I have made and retained close friends within the Ducati community which enables me to obtain all of their products at cost, yes even the SuperBike line! Therefore I know what the bikes, parts and accessories are all truly worth and what they are capable of within the right hands.

Fortunately, I have made friends with some of the biggest names in professional motorcycle racing, spent time with their families, learned what works and what does not when it comes to this wonderful sport. However, as with anything else there are that infamous 10% who like nothing more than to challenge others, degrade others, and counter anything said with something much different in their eyes. Yes, using the infamous quote I obviously know that opinions are like assholes. Lord knows I have even imparted my own opinions quite often here in this forum too so with that said I would like to think I am no hypocrite. But if you looked back thru every one of my posts, you would not read them to be challenging and inflammatory.
*******CHANGE TOPIC*********

In April 2004, as a Marine Corps Company First Sergeant (one above Gunny) while conducting a vehicular combat patrol from Abu Ghraib Prison in Iraq to a norther FOB, my Humvee was 25 ft from an artillery based IED which detonated. This was THE LOUDEST sound I have ever heard to date and blew out both of my ear drums, killed a Gunner exposed in a turret, and knocked me unconscious from the concussion wave. It blew out all the tires of the three closest vehicles. Long and short is that I now have permanent Traumatic Brain Injury, torn cervical discs from C2-to C6, PTSD, and loss of many motor functions. When my brain says grab the front brake, my right foot will apply the back brake when riding my bike. Also, I cannot ride for more than 30 minutes or so before becoming disoriented and getting lost. *Hence the deep concern of mine regarding a GPS mount and system. I thought of posting the photos of my Humvee and wounds but reconsidered as they would only appear as chest thumping (which I am not about) As one other member mentioned, it is usually those who don't talk about it that have been thru the worst and seen the most combat. True that my friend!

Therefore, when confronted with questions about my lack of balls to take my Tri Colore on the race track "where it truly belongs" you now understand that it is not because I do not wish to, it is because I simply CAN NOT due to my disabilities. Why would I look to put myself or those around me in harms way? This is why I have taken on the challenge of building a true "show quality" bike and not spending my weekends on a track. My brain has to learn things all over again and I hate every minute of it because I remember the man I used to be and skill I used to have in the seat of a Ducati Superbike. You may recall the replies of "no comment" when my integrity was questioned. This is why. I find it hypocritical how the same person who kept pushing and pushing me to an argument was the same member who PM'd me asking for my connections on gear, parts, and everything at one point. I just don't understand this. This forum has now turned into a "my dick is bigger than yours" type just like the stupid ass DC Sportbike website here in this area.

For those of you who have reached out to me for advice, assistance, and actually found that I DO in fact know what I am talking about, AND saved hundreds of dollars from the people I have sent you to - THANK YOU! I have met many friends here (you know who you all are!) and hope to maintain those friendships via other means. I need a break from such antagonistic and insulting behavior and will not be checking into this site any longer. No, its not all about me either! To those confrontational ones, take a long look at your post history and see what I mean. Also, MANY others concur!

I am extremely enthusiastic for you members that have actually met and had custom paintwork done by Sean at Connecticut Cycle Refinishing! I told you all how awesome his work was didn't I?

There was a time years ago that my rage would overwhelm me and I would react with what I have been trained to do. Now, I will not stoop to the level of some who just look to engage in confrontational posts and flame others. I have seen this toward too many other members here. I now have a certified PTSD & TBI Service Dog which I need to put my effort into continuing to train. This dog has been an answer to many prayers and the biggest help to me and what I now live with. Some may comment I am now "taking my ball and going home crying" To that I say STFU and walk a day in my boots. But to end on a positive note, this is a great website and forum which has better members than any other out there. Ride those bikes HARD, stay safe, and stay motivated! Ok, I can't resist - "Stay thirsty my friends!"

Semper Fidelis!

Gunny
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Old Sep 16th 2012, 02:51 PM   #2
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Originally Posted by Gunny Fitz View Post
To My Fellow Members-

This will be my last thread for some time, and I will do something I usually do not do - talk about, myself. Sorry about it's length and conent my friends. None of this is meant to sound conceded or brag whatsoever. It is to dispel any myths or negative thoughts derived by words in which i have written within this very special forum. Those of you that know me here can attest that though outspoken and forward (like most East Coasters are-I'm originally from Connecticut) I have generally given sound advice based upon my 35 years of riding experience which is actually very vast.

At least ten of these years was racing competitively within the CCS club circuit on a Ducati and SV650. I almost made it into the single digit plate class before a life changing experience took place. My first racing school was hosted by the Wood family at the Penguin Roadracing school at Loudon, NH, and I attended numerous professional courses across the country. I have accumulated trophies, plaques, won money, had multiple sponsors, used every available race tire, race fuel, specialized racing parts, set of boots, gloves, leathers and helmets during this short career.

I have been the #1 Ducati Sales Rep on the East Coast (early 2000's) and attended swanky trips to their factories in Italy, banquets, and still have access to their programs before they hit the main stream market. Thankfully, I have made and retained close friends within the Ducati community which enables me to obtain all of their products at cost, yes even the SuperBike line! Therefore I know what the bikes, parts and accessories are all truly worth and what they are capable of within the right hands.

Fortunately, I have made friends with some of the biggest names in professional motorcycle racing, spent time with their families, learned what works and what does not when it comes to this wonderful sport. However, as with anything else there are that infamous 10% who like nothing more than to challenge others, degrade others, and counter anything said with something much different in their eyes. Yes, using the infamous quote I obviously know that opinions are like assholes. Lord knows I have even imparted my own opinions quite often here in this forum too so with that said I would like to think I am no hypocrite. But if you looked back thru every one of my posts, you would not read them to be challenging and inflammatory.
*******CHANGE TOPIC*********

In April 2004, as a Marine Corps Company First Sergeant (one above Gunny) while conducting a vehicular combat patrol from Abu Ghraib Prison in Iraq to a norther FOB, my Humvee was 25 ft from an artillery based IED which detonated. This was THE LOUDEST sound I have ever heard to date and blew out both of my ear drums, killed a Gunner exposed in a turret, and knocked me unconscious from the concussion wave. It blew out all the tires of the three closest vehicles. Long and short is that I now have permanent Traumatic Brain Injury, torn cervical discs from C2-to C6, PTSD, and loss of many motor functions. When my brain says grab the front brake, my right foot will apply the back brake when riding my bike. Also, I cannot ride for more than 30 minutes or so before becoming disoriented and getting lost. *Hence the deep concern of mine regarding a GPS mount and system. I thought of posting the photos of my Humvee and wounds but reconsidered as they would only appear as chest thumping (which I am not about) As one other member mentioned, it is usually those who don't talk about it that have been thru the worst and seen the most combat. True that my friend!

Therefore, when confronted with questions about my lack of balls to take my Tri Colore on the race track "where it truly belongs" you now understand that it is not because I do not wish to, it is because I simply CAN NOT due to my disabilities. Why would I look to put myself or those around me in harms way? This is why I have taken on the challenge of building a true "show quality" bike and not spending my weekends on a track. My brain has to learn things all over again and I hate every minute of it because I remember the man I used to be and skill I used to have in the seat of a Ducati Superbike. You may recall the replies of "no comment" when my integrity was questioned. This is why. I find it hypocritical how the same person who kept pushing and pushing me to an argument was the same member who PM'd me asking for my connections on gear, parts, and everything at one point. I just don't understand this. This forum has now turned into a "my dick is bigger than yours" type just like the stupid ass DC Sportbike website here in this area.

For those of you who have reached out to me for advice, assistance, and actually found that I DO in fact know what I am talking about, AND saved hundreds of dollars from the people I have sent you to - THANK YOU! I have met many friends here (you know who you all are!) and hope to maintain those friendships via other means. I need a break from such antagonistic and insulting behavior and will not be checking into this site any longer. No, its not all about me either! To those confrontational ones, take a long look at your post history and see what I mean. Also, MANY others concur!

I am extremely enthusiastic for you members that have actually met and had custom paintwork done by Sean at Connecticut Cycle Refinishing! I told you all how awesome his work was didn't I?

There was a time years ago that my rage would overwhelm me and I would react with what I have been trained to do. Now, I will not stoop to the level of some who just look to engage in confrontational posts and flame others. I have seen this toward too many other members here. I now have a certified PTSD & TBI Service Dog which I need to put my effort into continuing to train. This dog has been an answer to many prayers and the biggest help to me and what I now live with. Some may comment I am now "taking my ball and going home crying" To that I say STFU and walk a day in my boots. But to end on a positive note, this is a great website and forum which has better members than any other out there. Ride those bikes HARD, stay safe, and stay motivated! Ok, I can't resist - "Stay thirsty my friends!"

Semper Fidelis!

Gunny
Shame you are moving on, being a new member I have found your views to be very informative!! Whilst I have read your post and understand the reasons why, your fountain of knowledge will certainly be a great loss to the forum. If you do manage to read this; good luck to you for the future and I certainly hope you reconsider perhaps staying on here. Cheers Dave
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Thank you.....first for your service to our country, and second for your well-intended advice. Best of luck in winning that show, or in whatever else you choose to do, and in the long-term rehabilitation you continue to undergo. Don't let the bastids get ya down.

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Old Sep 16th 2012, 03:21 PM   #6
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....just PM'd my buddy Gunny Fitz.......just spent 3 hours in a rebuttle from someone who said "buying track bodywork was a waste of money". Went to hit "post" and this effin BB timed out and my efforts were lost to the wind. And NO I do not sell bodywork. I will rewrite it within a few days and show with facts and figures that Brendan was indeed correct. Buying aftermarket track body work is a VERY SMART move. I have over 20 years of full time experience of seeing customers crying about "shoulda, woulda, coulda" as they take their mangled stock OEM bodywork into my shop. In the long run, buying brand "S" will save you a shit ton of money and grief. Gunny is correct and this is *not* a goddamned opinion.

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issues like this arising are why it's a good idea for busy forums to have a moderator or two. Internet forums are often populated by people who "KNOW" they're right and everyone else is wrong. and at the same time alot of people take this stuff way to seriously.

If Gunny choose not to come here, that's his choice, his knowledge enthusiasm will be missed. But at the end of the day, he has to do what he feels is the right thing for him to do.

For people to get into knock down drag out arguments over trivial stuff, and in the scheme of things the panigale is a trivial thing as compared to things happening all over the world, I mean c'mon it's a motorcycle, a toy, is antything pertaining it worth fighting over to prove who's right, who's wrong?

Just like the engine break in thing, some guys swear to "ride it like you stole it" others to follow the manuf suggestions, at the end of the day, they both work.
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since this appears to be somewhat between us - I'll just say the following -

-Everyone has an opinion. You believe yours is correct, and I believe mine is. You can still have a healthy debate and move on. Just because one is wrong (me or another) doesn't necessarily mean its the end of the world. And generally places are better for it for having multiple opinions - not the other way around.

-If you can't ride the track any more, I'm sorry. I'll apologize for pushing you to track your bike as that wasn't a known item. Nonetheless, I will still stick with my opinion on track skins which is what originated the discussion.

-Re Asking for connections. I did PM you asking if you had a better RST connection one time I think, but STG is a known connection with me and isn't anybody or entity that can (or will) hook you up over anything else. I think I had one other potential business dealing with you where you advertised your wheels. I said I would pay your asking price, but then you changed your mind when others offered more. Neither here nor there as you're allowed to change your mind. Thats the extent, right ?

-Now as in regards to some others things that we have crossed paths on. Yes, you have served and its an honor that you deserve that you have. My only issue with you (not serving, not the armed forces, not the marines, or anything else) is that just because one serves does not give one the /exclusive/ right to be a patriot and call others they don't like 'traitors', or posers. . . . Once you've opened that door - everything is fair game. And telling everybody else you've got all this shit on me doesn't exactly mean you're taking the high road as you're saying you are. Don't say you're taking the high road when you call others traitors. . ..

-I think where we disagree is because you think your right and because I think I'm right - we make statements that we have to live with. I think you make some outlandish statements and I point those out. The last two were "Warmers are a MUST for track use" and then the aforementioned "Stock skins are NOT to be used on a track".

-You have a lot of feel good buddy friends here. You're welcome to stay (though its not my place to welcome or anything else anyhow). I can leave out of here just as easily. You've got your groupie of people who "have your back" and make just as crazy/outlandish statements that you've made. I'm not on here that often anyhow. I just provide some insight as to some of /my/ experiences and whether people like my approach or not, at least I think I've provided some content and maybe some value. Who knows - maybe not.

-As for Sean/CCR - It looks like you've do great work. I've got track skins and I've rode bikes without. For /most/ people who don't regularly go to the track, I'll stick to the same mantra - you'll rarely make out ahead going track skins. The majority of part time track day riders don't go down - the numbers don't add up. Based on /my/ track record (maybe 10-15 track days a year) and working the numbers - I've done a few k in body damage but have spent way more than that on track skins. So obviously the numbers don't add up. For people doing less - probably less so, but lets take this discussion elsewhere.

Finally - its a message board. I would say "get over it", but apparently its bothering you more than others. You have opinions, I have opinions. I don't know why differing opinions than your own should be more than anything that is just a trivial debate. . . .
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"For /most/ people who don't regularly go to the track, I'll stick to the same mantra - you'll rarely make out ahead going track skins. The majority of part time track day riders don't go down - the numbers don't add up"

What works for you doesn't necessarily work for others. I have a few hundred customers over the last 25 years of doing business that feel otherwise. In the long run there are huge savings to be had if you play your cards right. The "numbers" do indeed add up and within a few days when I have the time I will prove it.
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Originally Posted by ccr View Post
"For /most/ people who don't regularly go to the track, I'll stick to the same mantra - you'll rarely make out ahead going track skins. The majority of part time track day riders don't go down - the numbers don't add up"

What works for you doesn't necessarily work for others. I have a few hundred customers over the last 25 years of doing business that feel otherwise. In the long run there are huge savings to be had if you play your cards right. The "numbers" do indeed add up and within a few days when I have the time I will prove it.
I'm not talking necessarily about myself. I'm talking the majority of occasional track day riders. Don't confuse regular track day riders with the occasional rider that goes for a couple track days a year. And yeah, you're business is centered around this - so while you have more insight into price, you also have a bias here. I doubt you can 'prove' the case either way, but lets see. You can make your numbers go either way - the only thing that one can prove is if you have all the numbers of which neither you nor I have.

Either way, lets take this into the original thread or another thread. No point x-posting this thread.
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