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Old Jun 12th 2018, 05:34 PM   #1
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MotoGP versus the TT

MotoGP versus the TT

Racing motorcycles around a wee country road at close to 200mph doesnít make sense to many people, which is why it makes a lot of sense to others
Sundayís Catalan MotoGP race takes place 69 years to the day after the first MotoGP race (OK, the first 500cc world championship race), staged on the Isle of Man on 17th June 1949.
That race was won by Harold Daniell on a factory Norton single that nudged 135mph in top gear. Last Friday Peter Hickman established a new TT lap record of 135.452mph while on his way to victory in the Senior TT, averaging 44.8mph faster than Daniellís winning average from 1949.
At the end of the race he held aloft the exact same trophy of Mercury (the Roman god of financial gain, travellers and luck, trickery and thieves and the guide of souls to the underworld) that Daniell held in June 1949.
Hickman set the record on his final lap of the six-lap race as he chased down Dean Harrison. His winning advantage was 2.06sec, after one hour and 43 minutes of racing, with both men riding different makes of bikes on different brands of tyres and not once seeing each other during the 226 miles. Last year the average winning gap in MotoGP was 2.2sec.
The race record also went, for several reasons. Unusually, it didnít rain during race week, so by Friday there was a good layer of rubber on the racing line, which increases grip. Also, Hickman and Harrison seem to have raised TT riding to a new level. Thatís what happens in any sport: someone raises the bar and everyone else has to catch up. Itís what Marc MŠrquez did in MotoGP.
Hickman and Harrison rode the 37ĺ-mile course in short-circuit mode, with jaw-dropping commitment and precision: laying rubber accelerating out of the corners, elbows within inches of the road through the slower parts of the course, Hickman fully drifting his BMW S1000RR near the top of the Mountain Mile at around 180mph.
Most of the TT course is tackled at that kind of speed and more, with riders flat out in sixth gear for a mile and more through the fastest sections. Watching the racing via onboard cameras, most people new to the TT cannot believe that the film hasnít been speeded up, because trees, buildings and spectators rush past either side as if viewed from the Millennium Falcon at war speed.
Hickman first raced at the TT in 2014, to earn some money. This isnít uncommon these days. Riders*arenít paid any prize money in BSB, so they have to race elsewhere to pay the bills, never mind the extra risk. Some of these riders donít take to the unique demands of the TT, others do. Obviously, Hickman is one of the latter. He has fallen in love with the place and now speaks of ďthis magical islandĒ.
There is no bigger adrenaline rush in motorcycling. But itís not merely the buzz, because there is something almost spiritual about racing around the TT course. The combination of the elation of rapid motion through space, the realisation that each mistake might be your last and the resultant feeling of all of your senses ablaze as you thread the eye of the needle at frankly ridiculous speeds is a heady emotional cocktail that affects you in a way that no other racetrack can.
In the MotoGP paddock the TT is a tricky subject. Some people love it, some people hate it and others simply shake their heads, unable to comprehend what itís all about, because itís a million miles outside their own experience of racing motorcycles.
Since 1911 the Mountain course has claimed 275 lives, including Dan Kneen and Adam Lyon during this yearís practice and race weeks. The TT is dangerous. Motorcycles are dangerous. Iíve lost friends and loved ones to the TT, to short-circuit racing, to road accidents. To alcoholism, also.
Over the last 40*years Iíve hated the TT, fallen in love with the TT, hated the TT again and then fallen back in love with it. In fact, this back-and-forth process is continuous, changing from day to day according to whatís gone down on the Isle of Man.
However, itís my fervent belief that as adults we all own our own bodies and can do with them what we like, so long as weíre not hurting anyone else. Of course I feel uneasy about the TT and other races on public roads. But there are also times when I feel uneasy about MotoGP. And I am absolutely sure that I feel more uneasy about schoolkids racing Moto3 bikes than I do about grown-ups racing at the TT.
Motor Sport extends its condolences to the family of Andreas Perez, who died following a Moto3 Junior World Championship accident at Cataluyna.
Photos: www.iomtt.com



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Old Jun 13th 2018, 03:49 AM   #2
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Russian roulette would give a similar rush with similar results , much more decisive though. I respect the participants and the spectators, but when you know someone is going to die every year for that event leaves me wondering ??
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Russian roulette would give a similar rush with similar results , much more decisive though. I respect the participants and the spectators, but when you know someone is going to die every year for that event leaves me wondering ??
Cotton wool society.....people die everyday
Not every year someone dies
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Old Jun 13th 2018, 04:33 AM   #4
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TT week is the best I love it couldn't wait to fire up the DVR. Those guys and girls are crazy!!!! I would pass on the electric race that was like watching a GP race... (pass the 5 hour energy please)

Only one thing I dislike about TT week: For past 3 years after the superbike and superstock race I want to buy a BMW S1000RR and throw a full Akra or Arrow on that biatch!!!
But unfortunately im only allowed to have only one bike in the garage... lol
And man the superstock and senior TT were bonkers!!!! The supersport race reminded me how really good and all round performance a 600 can offer us.
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Old Jun 13th 2018, 03:28 PM   #5
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Originally Posted by Goshow1199 View Post
TT week is the best I love it couldn't wait to fire up the DVR. Those guys and girls are crazy!!!! I would pass on the electric race that was like watching a GP race... (pass the 5 hour energy please)

Only one thing I dislike about TT week: For past 3 years after the superbike and superstock race I want to buy a BMW S1000RR and throw a full Akra or Arrow on that biatch!!!
But unfortunately im only allowed to have only one bike in the garage... lol
And man the superstock and senior TT were bonkers!!!! The supersport race reminded me how really good and all round performance a 600 can offer us.


I think this is one of the best pics from this year. IMO.



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