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Old Sep 14th 2019, 06:17 AM   #1
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Incoming Tire Rant

So.. I just replaced my tires. Sounds like it should be pretty easy. Wrong....
The easiest part was the actual removal and installation of the wheels.
First, Why does everyone act like working on a motorcycle is reserved for MMI grads with 30k in student loans. I call 4 places and they acted like they never heard of someone bringing wheels in separate from the bike.
I called around and found a dealer that would do it for 27.50 a wheel. So I get there and they can't do it because of the single sided swing arm wheel. They were actually nice and said "I hate to give work away" and tells me to try Cycle Gear. Cycle gear wants 25 dollar per wheel if I bough the tires from them and 50 per wheel if I didn't...WTF is this poop..BTW I paid 191 for the rear and cycle gear wanted 230 the front was about the same savings so I wasn't going to buy tires from them anyways.

Well...I called the local Ducati dealer and got ......"sorry we cant install tires unless you buy them from us". I had checked prices and they were way high.

Called another dealer close to the Ducati dealer and was told $35 each for loose wheels. I then ask if a ducati wheel would be an issue, the reply was ....."we don't have the socket to get it off the bike". Ok I just said 2 seconds ago that these were off the bike. Never mind not going there. Finally I settled on a independent shop that wanted 38.5 per wheel. I don't understand the price difference between a bike and car tire when the wheel is already off the bike. I can take low profile tires to Pepboys and get mount and balance for 15.5 per wheel, and surprisingly they do a decent job. I guess fewer mechanics at higher pay at the bike shop

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Old Sep 14th 2019, 11:12 AM   #2
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Clearly this is how shops make money, I mean they have to somehow given that margins are squeezed so hard in retail so I dont begrudge them but you want good service. My local fits and balances gratis if you buy the rubber from them. That said it takes less than 30 minutes to ride in/ride out of that shop.

Learn to do it yourself, its not that hard this gear is good https://max2h.com/reifenmontiergerae...k-starterpaket

but any el cheapo bead breaker and a set of irons should also do it if you know what you're doing and given that these bikes consume rubber at only a slightly lower rate than fuel, its worth learning.

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Old Sep 14th 2019, 01:59 PM   #3
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and that's why i got me a no-mar tire changer and balancer.

plus i don't have an underpaid and unmotivated wrench monkey messing up my wheels.
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Old Sep 14th 2019, 03:24 PM   #4
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I agree with you, except for one thing. The reason for the difference between cars and motorcycles is that the big car tire shops hire people off the streets who could have been flipping burgers the day before. Motorcycle shops don't have enough tire business to need the burger flipper, so when a tire change job comes in they have to have a certified mechanic who is in the middle of an engine rebuilt to change out a tire. Yes, slight exaggeration...sometimes!

Keep in mind also that most riders don't take the wheels off themselves (I always do though). Pulling the brake calipers, chain, aligning everything etc does take true mechanical skills and experience.

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Old Sep 14th 2019, 03:29 PM   #5
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Clearly this is how shops make money, I mean they have to somehow given that margins are squeezed so hard in retail so I dont begrudge them but you want good service. My local fits and balances gratis if you buy the rubber from them. That said it takes less than 30 minutes to ride in/ride out of that shop.

Learn to do it yourself, its not that hard this gear is good http://ducatiforum.com/newreply.php?...ote=1&p=339294

but any el cheapo bead breaker and a set of irons should also do it if you know what you're doing and given that these bikes consume rubber at only a slightly lower rate than fuel, its worth learning.
Your link needs some work
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Old Sep 14th 2019, 04:08 PM   #6
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I'm building an 30x40 attached garage in the fall, I'm definitely going to get a wheel and tire machine. I get so tired with taking my vehicles in for tire replacements and they rarely go smooth. When I was a tech I used to use the hunter in the quicklane for my bike tires by pulling out the center piece of the machine.
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Your link needs some work
https://max2h.com/reifenmontiergerae...k-starterpaket

ha ha!!!
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I have been using the Max for years it is very solid super easy to use and folds up so it's super compact.


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