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Old Jul 17th 2013, 04:29 AM   #1
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Since the price of SP2s are just as pricey as slicks I'm considering switching over and getting a set of tire warmers too. Can someone point me in the right direction on the internet of Pirelli race compound tires? Everywhere I seem to look they are sold out or not the tires I see people speak about on this forum that race the Pani. So maybe I'm looking in the right place, but they are sold out. Just looking for some opinions of buying.

I love my SP2s and have nothing but great things to say, but I'm only getting one maybe two track days out of them. I did 500 miles in the Gap and one track day and they are destroyed already. Looking to make the move to SCs or whichever tire comes in 200/55 race compounds. And is there only 1 race tire acceptable on the DTC system like the street? (this bike is a pain in the ass BTW, in ref to the DTC)

Before I do so though, will race compounds last 3-4 track days at least?(obviously it does depend on my riding skill) But based on the average track enthusiast?
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Old Jul 17th 2013, 05:00 AM   #3
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Can someone point me in the right direction on the internet of Pirelli race compound tires?
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And is there only 1 race tire acceptable on the DTC system like the street? (this bike is a pain in the ass BTW, in ref to the DTC)
Supposedly DTC 1 was calibrated specifically for Supercorsa SC2. Most people have tried other tires and found in general that the DTC is more aggressive with other tires. If cost is a concern, find the lesser expensive race compounds, such as Pirelli Superbike Pro Slicks, and adjust the TC to your desired cut levels.

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Before I do so though, will race compounds last 3-4 track days at least?(obviously it does depend on my riding skill) But based on the average track enthusiast?
Again, Pirelli Superbike Pro Slicks are what I would recommend. They only come in 190/55 but again, the TC can be adjusted to a level that you are comfortable with. They specifically are designed for track days/endurance racing and should easily get you at least 3-4 track days. As you said, it depends upon your skill level, abrasiveness of your track and concentration of left/right turns. You can also flip them so if they get worn out due to a predominantly left- or right- turn track (i.e. Jennings GP), remove the wheel, take it to the tire guy to flip them, and voila: almost new tire!
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Old Jul 17th 2013, 06:01 AM   #4
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Again, Pirelli Superbike Pro Slicks are what I would recommend. They only come in 190/55 but again, the TC can be adjusted to a level that you are comfortable with. They specifically are designed for track days/endurance racing and should easily get you at least 3-4 track days. As you said, it depends upon your skill level, abrasiveness of your track and concentration of left/right turns. You can also flip them so if they get worn out due to a predominantly left- or right- turn track (i.e. Jennings GP), remove the wheel, take it to the tire guy to flip them, and voila: almost new tire!
JeffD have you found a DTC setting that has worked for you with DOTs at 190/55?
For SP2s I noticed in the mountains my DTC light constantly came on in weird spots like straights and even light turns, even at the least abtrusive settings. But then I go to the track with the same set of tires and settings with little DTC intrusion. (dash mounted camera is how i check this)
I know for the better part of the year we've beat this topic up, so I am knowledglable to all our discussions. I just haven't tried anything but the stock tires. I curious of peoples actual experiences with hard track riding using DTC and different tires. Not the thoughts of the casual rider.
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JeffD have you found a DTC setting that has worked for you with DOTs at 190/55?
For SP2s I noticed in the mountains my DTC light constantly came on in weird spots like straights and even light turns, even at the least abtrusive settings. But then I go to the track with the same set of tires and settings with little DTC intrusion. (dash mounted camera is how i check this)
I know for the better part of the year we've beat this topic up, so I am knowledglable to all our discussions. I just haven't tried anything but the stock tires. I curious of peoples actual experiences with hard track riding using DTC and different tires. Not the thoughts of the casual rider.

I've only had my Pani for 2.5 months and haven't been to the track yet, but certainly plan to as soon as my track bodywork is finished. Regarding your TC, I bet it was activating a bunch more because of bumps in the road (I know the Smoky Mountains well). Also, you're accelerating hard from lower gears which puts more torque on the tire than when you're accelerating from a higher speed as you would on typical track corners. I was just in the Smokies over 4th of July week and had the same experience on Bridgestone S20s in 190/55. I chose them based on Steve B's discussions on here.

I've had a lot of experience on the Pirelli Superbike Pro Slicks, and for what you describe I believe they are what you are looking for. I'll probably be using those at Daytona this October and will post a review and videos.

Perhaps Wilkson could chime in, he seems to be constantly tracking his Pani, and also kope999.

Good luck and I look forward to hearing your results whatever route you choose. This is indeed an important topic that I'm surprised hasn't been definitively answered.

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Thanks for your comments JeffD. Appreciate the help. Keep us up to date as well with your experiences.
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Anytime, and we'll find a good cost/performance compromise for those of us who aren't millionaires!

I edited my most recent post as I meant to say Pirelli Superbike Pro Slicks. They're $365 a set shipped, and I suggest you try them on your next track outing. Be mindful of geometry changes and measure your front and rear ride heights before and after so you know what adjustments to make after they are mounted to keep similar steering characteristics. They have a bit less ultimate stick than typical race rubber, which are designed for sprint races. However, how well they wear and the fact that they do stick far better for far longer than street/trackday tires (Q2, BT-003RS, etc.) at track temperatures make them the ideal choice for the vast majority of track riders, IMHO. Plus, they advertise that they don't require tire warmers so that just helped you buy almost another complete set!

Pirelli Diablo Superbike Pro Rear Tire from SportbikeTrackGear.com

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Old Jul 17th 2013, 09:32 AM   #8
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I run dunlops. No issues with DTC set to one.

http://www.whoopiecycles.com/

Just as cheap as pirellis through this site. He's also a local racer and cool guy in the community.
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