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Old Nov 12th 2015, 04:55 PM   #1
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Valencia 3 laps to go corner #8

Just re watched the race tonight. Was not a huge Mark Marquez fan. However after watching the race again tonight I lost all respect for the very aggressive Honda rider. During the closing laps of the race with 3 laps to go coming into turn 8. I have a very very difficult time believing the master of late braking and super aggressive passing could not match his team mates braking into turn #8. Danni P made up a bus length and more in a single turn to the Marquez and Lorenzo. And then caught them both passed Marquez and then all of a sudden Mark remembers how to race for the next few corners to late brake and over take his team mate all the while not making a single attempt on the leader. I have watched GP racing for the better part of 30 plus years and have never seen such a sad display of a rider dictating the outcome of a championship like this.

Honda must be in a real tough spot with a rider acting in such a way to allow a rival team win like this. So sad for Padrosa and Rossi. Mostly Padrosa, he was just trying to win a race and not get caught up in the drama. Mark on the other hand in no way could let his team mate win while letting Lorenzo loose the Championship while battling Padrosa.
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Old Nov 12th 2015, 05:05 PM   #2
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It's done. Give it up already. Jesus...
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Old Nov 12th 2015, 05:12 PM   #3
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it does leave a bad taste in my mouth, and Marquez and Lorenzo are definitely on my hate list now - before, it was just Lorenzo.

that being said, as rabid a Rossi fan as I am, I was pretty stunned in Sepang, and I've watched the Phillip Island race a couple times and am leaning towards Marquez just racing and not sandbagging.

the theory is that Rossi lost his cool, his objectivity, his love for the race itself, and for the first time focused on just getting that championship - the reason being that he hoped to put on the mother of all win ceremonies (and his ceremonies are never small), completely dedicated to Marco Simoncelli.

2016 should be interesting - no more open class. Spec ECU. Because the spec ECU is basically what the open class has been running, but "simplistic" compared to what the factory teams were running, it should level the mechanical playing field a bit, and hopefully rider skill will show through even more.
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Ok...who looks suspect of wrong doings here?
Valencia 3 laps to go corner #8-image.jpg
Case CLOSED!
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Old Nov 13th 2015, 12:39 AM   #5
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Originally Posted by flobrandx View Post
Ok...who looks suspect of wrong doings here?
Attachment 16211
Case CLOSED!
Heheh! Jorge "Juice" Lorenzo?
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rossi vs marquez argentina i never relized it before but watch it in slow motion rossi passes marquez, looks back to see where he is, changes his line rolls off throttle and cause crash.

i know the rossi sheep wont mention this or agree to it, thats fine.

MM didnt cry over it like rossi has been doing, nor did he not not show up for the awards like a child. he said we will learn his techniqes

anyway here is the video watch in slow motion as rossi peeks back sees where mm is changes his line watch his had off the throttle causing the crash

MotoGP Argentina 2015 - Valentino Rossi vs Marc Marquez Battle for 1st - Video Dailymotion
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lastly this stat sums it up so how on earth do you think rossi won the championship
victories 7-4
race laps lead
lorenzo 274
rest of moto gp 174

CASE IS RESTED.
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Why do we need to review stats? It comes down to most points right? Lorenzo had more so he won. Case closed...
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Why do we need to review stats? It comes down to most points right? Lorenzo had more so he won. Case closed...
we dont but op wanted too.

MM quote "I will learn from his tricks and experience.
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we dont but op wanted too.

MM quote "I will learn from his tricks and experience.
Tricks? I think that's called race craft
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