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Old Jul 6th 2016, 06:28 AM   #11
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Originally Posted by Chaotic View Post
After watching the HWT race, we must be running different gearing because our gears were different. I'm running the stock gearing (39 rear).

I used 2nd-4th for the whole track. I noticed going through the museum corner you were in 3rd. I go down to 2nd there.

I exit Charlotte's in 2nd, then go up into 3rd before that crest to keep the front wheel down, then later up to 4th. I get on the brakes and go down into 3rd, then turn in staying on the brakes the whole time. I will lighten brakes pressure as I jump the curb (when going down to 2nd). Then after I jump the curb I'll increase brake pressure.

You seemed to be a gear higher everywhere. You running a 41 rear?
Yes, I'm running the 41. I think in practice I ran 3rd coming out of the museum shifted into 4th before the next turn then 5th coming out before T12 and you pulled away like nothing, so I just ran forth thru there and it seemed to help. I was wondering if maybe I should be dropping into 2nd. I should have tried it. I try 2nd in The web and museum next time. Maybe I'll have better acceleration doing it that way. You were rolling dude. And you have the best setup in the paddock. I have Broome level goals......
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Old Jul 7th 2016, 01:36 AM   #13
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Yes, I'm running the 41. I think in practice I ran 3rd coming out of the museum shifted into 4th before the next turn then 5th coming out before T12 and you pulled away like nothing, so I just ran forth thru there and it seemed to help. I was wondering if maybe I should be dropping into 2nd. I should have tried it. I try 2nd in The web and museum next time. Maybe I'll have better acceleration doing it that way. You were rolling dude. And you have the best setup in the paddock. I have Broome level goals......
Thanks, I appreciate that.

Definitely try 2nd coming out of Charlottes and the Museum. 3rd will "work", but you just don't get the same drive. BTW - I tried a 41t earlier in the weekend and even with the 41, I still went into 2nd in those places.

I also go down into 2nd for that tight right hander in front of Pit-In (the right hander prior to the left that leads onto the front straight). I mostly go down into 2nd to get some engine braking so I don't overload the front since we have to brake while carrying a good bit of lean angle.

I am in 4th for that whole back section. I exit the Museum in 2nd, then go up into 3rd, then click into 4th before that high speed chicane and I don't downshift for it. I carry the gas into the left hander (entrance to chicane), then brake hard in that short stretch where we are vertical between the left and right, trail the brakes into the right hander to help the bike turn, then pour on the gas and let the throttle carry me to the curbing.

Then I carry 4th till I downshift into 3rd for the next chicane. I carry 3rd over that hill and into the long right hander, then down into 2nd for the tight right hander like I mentioned before.
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BTW - here is a little trick that DiSalvo taught me (that I don't share with everyone ). Go down into 2nd for that tight right hander in front of Pit-in like I said, but then short shift into 3rd BEFORE making the left onto the front straightaway, instead of carrying 2nd onto the front straight. I do that on every bike, even the R6.

You can carry A LOT of roll speed through that left hander onto the front straight, and 2nd is too "peaky". So short shift into 3rd, nail the gas in that split second we are vertical, then roll into that left carrying a lot of corner speed (that is where I get my elbow down on the curbing). Then you can roll onto the gas sooner and harder and carry the momentum onto the front straight.

I typically make a lot of passes on that front straightaway and on the brakes going into T1. If somebody is watching from the sidelines, it just looks like my bike is faster. But those passes are actually setup way back on the exit of that right hander in front of Pit-in and by the roll speed I carry onto the front straight.
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Thanks for the pointers Chris. I'll definitely make some
Notes on my track maps. If I make it to GNF, this will definitely help. I have some video of you in practice when you past me in the web and during the twins race. I been watching them closely. I have 3/4 secs a lap to make up and I need to run them consistently.
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Originally Posted by Chaotic View Post
BTW - here is a little trick that DiSalvo taught me (that I don't share with everyone ). Go down into 2nd for that tight right hander in front of Pit-in like I said, but then short shift into 3rd BEFORE making the left onto the front straightaway, instead of carrying 2nd onto the front straight. I do that on every bike, even the R6.

You can carry A LOT of roll speed through that left hander onto the front straight, and 2nd is too "peaky". So short shift into 3rd, nail the gas in that split second we are vertical, then roll into that left carrying a lot of corner speed (that is where I get my elbow down on the curbing). Then you can roll onto the gas sooner and harder and carry the momentum onto the front straight.

I typically make a lot of passes on that front straightaway and on the brakes going into T1. If somebody is watching from the sidelines, it just looks like my bike is faster. But those passes are actually setup way back on the exit of that right hander in front of Pit-in and by the roll speed I carry onto the front straight.
i tried that on the grom.

didn't work.




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Originally Posted by Ljuice26 View Post
Thanks for the pointers Chris. I'll definitely make some
Notes on my track maps. If I make it to GNF, this will definitely help. I have some video of you in practice when you past me in the web and during the twins race. I been watching them closely. I have 3/4 secs a lap to make up and I need to run them consistently.
No worries. Feel free to hit me up if you have any specific questions.
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