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Old Feb 24th 2018, 06:49 PM   #31
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Originally Posted by Sutki View Post
How high level ASBK is, if 48 year man can coming second, and not been racing in years..( nothing to take bayliss, he was/ is still super pilot...but we all coming old, and this is young mans game..)
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Old Feb 24th 2018, 07:37 PM   #32
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Just a heads up without giving the results, it was a split race where every rider had to come in and do a tyre change as Pirelli had decided after race 1 that the tyres would not last the distance with a cooler track. Talk about drama.

Same thing was for the super sport race.
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Amazing finish!
What a RACE!!👍👍
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What a RACE!!👍👍
Watching it live was out of this world, and the tyre change only added to the intensity. Can’t wait to watch it when we get home, but a few classic Victorian roads to do first. ✅
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frickin pirelli
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Old Feb 25th 2018, 09:57 AM   #38
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frickin pirelli
Happens every year at PI. Pirelli tells the teams not to mess around with the recommended tire pressures because of what PI does to them. Teams ignore them and tires explode. This year they started spot checking bikes on the grid and found many were below the advised pressure ranges. As a result, Dorna is instituting a random test of tire pressure on the grid at rounds going forward after Aragon. Although I suspect the heat in Thailand will cause them to start this early. Bikes that are under advised pressures will be sanctioned.

Quick note from Pirelli on the matter, was buried in the press releases from the weekend. But has been a hot topic if you listen to any of the more technical podcasts out there. This has been going on for years.

The topic of tyre pressure remains a crucial point for us, because it is clear that if a tyre is not inflated properly, it cannot work well and this, lap after lap, can trigger problems, especially on a particularly critical and sensitive track like Phillip Island. For this reason, Dorna and FIM, in agreement with Pirelli and starting from this round, have implemented a pressure control procedure a few minutes prior to the start, selecting a few riders at random. The first data collected gives pause for reflection: out of nine riders checked in the three races of the weekend, four were below the minimum 1.60 bar pressure recommended by Pirelli. The Championship organiser announced that from the Aragón round, riders who do not observe the minimum tyre pressure will be sanctioned.”
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Happens every year at PI. Pirelli tells the teams not to mess around with the recommended tire pressures because of what PI does to them. Teams ignore them and tires explode. This year they started spot checking bikes on the grid and found many were below the advised pressure ranges. As a result, Dorna is instituting a random test of tire pressure on the grid at rounds going forward after Aragon. Although I suspect the heat in Thailand will cause them to start this early. Bikes that are under advised pressures will be sanctioned.

Quick note from Pirelli on the matter, was buried in the press releases from the weekend. But has been a hot topic if you listen to any of the more technical podcasts out there. This has been going on for years.

The topic of tyre pressure remains a crucial point for us, because it is clear that if a tyre is not inflated properly, it cannot work well and this, lap after lap, can trigger problems, especially on a particularly critical and sensitive track like Phillip Island. For this reason, Dorna and FIM, in agreement with Pirelli and starting from this round, have implemented a pressure control procedure a few minutes prior to the start, selecting a few riders at random. The first data collected gives pause for reflection: out of nine riders checked in the three races of the weekend, four were below the minimum 1.60 bar pressure recommended by Pirelli. The Championship organiser announced that from the Aragón round, riders who do not observe the minimum tyre pressure will be sanctioned.”
interesting thank you for your explanation .
My opinion is this is due to the fact that pirelli as a company has (year after year)let the riders down by providing a less than desirable spec tire.
why else does it happen to guys like Rea? logic would say the Kaw team would not make a mistake with tire pressure.
historically pirelli have dropped off substantially before the end of the race .

the whole point of the spec tire crap was to remove the tires from the determining factor in the races. ironically since the spec tire rules the teams who have had the ability to deal with the pirelli drop off and inability to handle heat and one sided tracks has been have been the most successful .
I could be completely wrong too LOL
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Melandri was also on the tire specifically designed to deal with PI. It was an option for all of the riders. Rea and Sykes chose not to run it and use the standard tire. Hindsight being 20/20, they apparently chose wrong. Don't have the data handy at the moment to upload, but Pirelli makes compound choices that the riders made available to the public after the races. Interesting stuff in there and you can frequently see where even the top teams choose wrong on any given weekend.

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