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Old Mar 22nd 2018, 09:51 AM   #41
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Originally Posted by mark419ny View Post
do you think danny will actually lose the seat with his very close ties to repsol? do you think zarco will be good on the honda the guy obviously is a great talent but he keeps taking the soft tyre; the honda destroys the soft front the hard wasnt even hard enough for marquez. do you think zarco can change his style to ride the honda? all valid questions but will be very interesting.

will jorge end up on suzuki?
Yes I believe he'll lose his seat. He's been a great #2 rider his entire career, which happens to be at a factory squad. I believe Zarco will adapt. We aren't talking about Jorge here. Zarco needs a factory bike.

I honestly don't know where Jorge will end up. If he is ranked higher than Petrucci at the end of the year, he will have no choice but to try to renegotiate with Ducati. Regardless of where he places, he needs to GTFO of Bologna.
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JPSlotus was the person who wrote the comment. who is he i dont know but i was giving him credit cause i didnt write it.

anyway since i know rossi for what he is a fraud and disagree with the valeban im not allowed to comment? beacuse all the valeban do is argue based on emotion and not stats? because there are thousands of valeban out there that wear yellow or blue that makes him better as a rider? the ny jets have millions of fans doesnt mean they are a better football team does it? or are those pesky facts not the facts because you dont like them?
Because you attend races and assume i dont that means what? obviously you dont know me as i do attend the races on all levels.

since motogp is a business and 46 makes money does for that business does that make him a better rider because he brings in fans or does motoGP prop him up with advantages to keep the fans there (tyre changes mid season dash communications remember rossi wanted that cause he missed the pit)?as you said its a business and they will do whatever they can to keep rossi relavent. i never said he isnt a money maker i said he isnt as great as the valeban want you to believe and if you look at the stats its clear that without advantages he cant win. rossi has been the receiver of special tyres until 2009 and had tyres pulled like last year and the magical disappearance of the JLO tire a few years ago when he was dominating preseason much like vinales.

here are some facts since 2010 46 has avg 1 race win a year the champ has avg 5. you know what that means NO CHAMPIOINSHIP. his winning percentage is even lower then the stats posted last year because you guessed it he won 1 race. i can go on and on but hey lemmings will continue to walk off the cliff following.

oh i forgot since you attend all these races did you walk out with your binky when rossi crashed in TX like all the other rossi frauds i mean fans did. i remember it well as i was there. there was so much race left and i was confused why people would leave after 2 laps or so. do you cheer when a rider like JLO crashes like most valeban do? just questions.
Did I touch a nerve? lol

Did Rossi deny you an autograph or something?

I don't assume anything. But if you do attend the races at all levels, you seem rather biased and short-sighted. That, or you are relatively new to the sport. Doesn't matter one way or the other, haters are always going to find a way to justify their hate. Your views on Rossi's perceived advantages are very one-sided. Keep telling yourself that if it makes you happy, but I'll tell you straight up that I personally know a few of the tire guys from a few teams that would laugh at your statements.

I do find it funny that in the decade I've been hanging out with the MotoGP teams, I have never heard anything bad said about Vale. Other riders, not so much. Maybe I have selective hearing? Perhaps you should make some of your Valeban shirts for sale! Don't make too many though, unless of course you want to use them as wallpaper or tissues to wipe up your tears of hate.

Guess what? I was invited to MotoGP and befriended a team because I got into a friendly argument with one of their sponsors over who made a better bike, Ducati or Honda. Then he found out I named my newborn Hayden-ROSSI and called the team owner on the spot. Man, am I glad I was a Rossi fraud!

I have no problem admitting I cheer for Vale and think he can win another championship, and I will continue to cheer for him whether he wins, places in the top 5, or comes in last. Sadly, I gave my 46 binky away to a small toddler to match his 46 cap and shirt, but don't worry, I'll get another one. Besides, it's in poor taste to rock it in the Honda box from where I usually watch the races. I even wear a jacket over my usual Ducati shirt out of respect and unspoken protocol. Just because you are the type that cheers when Rossi crashes, don't put that shit on me. I'm not happy when anyone crashes, Whoreghey included; I want to see a rider win on a day when everyone else is riding their best, not because of others' misfortune. My reasons for disliking Lorenzo are personal from the paddock and how he acted towards team friends. I actually think he is a brilliant rider, his personality, not so much.

Now if you'll excuse me, I have a cliff to walk off...

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Originally Posted by Notec View Post
Yes I believe he'll lose his seat. He's been a great #2 rider his entire career, which happens to be at a factory squad. I believe Zarco will adapt. We aren't talking about Jorge here. Zarco needs a factory bike.

I honestly don't know where Jorge will end up. If he is ranked higher than Petrucci at the end of the year, he will have no choice but to try to renegotiate with Ducati. Regardless of where he places, he needs to GTFO of Bologna.
interesting takes and i agree with every one. danny was the perfect #2 and almost won a championship here or there. Zarco and MM will be very interesting for sure.
im saying JLO to suzuki iaonne out.
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Originally Posted by DucatiTerminator View Post
Did I touch a nerve? lol

Did Rossi deny you an autograph or something?

I don't assume anything. But if you do attend the races at all levels, you seem rather biased and short-sighted. That, or you are relatively new to the sport. Doesn't matter one way or the other, haters are always going to find a way to justify their hate. Your views on Rossi's perceived advantages are very one-sided. Keep telling yourself that if it makes you happy, but I'll tell you straight up that I personally know a few of the tire guys from a few teams that would laugh at your statements.

I do find it funny that in the decade I've been hanging out with the MotoGP teams, I have never heard anything bad said about Vale. Other riders, not so much. Maybe I have selective hearing? Perhaps you should make some of your Valeban shirts for sale! Don't make too many though, unless of course you want to use them as wallpaper or tissues to wipe up your tears of hate.

Guess what? I was invited to MotoGP and befriended a team because I got into a friendly argument with one of their sponsors over who made a better bike, Ducati or Honda. Then he found out I named my newborn Hayden-ROSSI and called the team owner on the spot. Man, am I glad I was a Rossi fraud!

I have no problem admitting I cheer for Vale and think he can win another championship, and I will continue to cheer for him whether he wins, places in the top 5, or comes in last. Sadly, I gave my 46 binky away to a small toddler to match his 46 cap and shirt, but don't worry, I'll get another one. Besides, it's in poor taste to rock it in the Honda box from where I usually watch the races. I even wear a jacket over my usual Ducati shirt out of respect and unspoken protocol. Just because you are the type that cheers when Rossi crashes, don't put that shit on me. I'm not happy when anyone crashes, Whoreghey included; I want to see a rider win on a day when everyone else is riding their best, not because of others' misfortune. My reasons for disliking Lorenzo are personal from the paddock and how he acted towards team friends. I actually think he is a brilliant rider, his personality, not so much.

Now if you'll excuse me, I have a cliff to walk off...

Your biggest Rossi fan, I mean fraud,
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p.s. La gallina vecchia fa buon brodo
touch a nerve lol no but looks like i sure did. here are some facts while you produced none
Rossi vs Stoner 2007 - 2012
102 starts 99starts
21 wins 38 wins
20.5% 38.4%
2 titles 2 titles


Rossi vs Pedrosa
191 starts 182 starts
35 wins 29 wins
18.3% 15.9%
2 titles 0 titles

Rossi vs Lorenzo
Overall
2008 - 2016
156 starts 156 starts
26 wins 44 wins
16.7% 28.2%
2 titles 3 titles

On the same equipment
2009-2010 2013-2016
103 starts 106 starts
17 wins 34 wins
16.5% 32%
1 title 2 titles

Rossi vs Marquez
72 starts 72 starts
9 wins 29 wins
12.5% 40.3%
0 titles 3 titles

enjoy another losing 3 seasons.

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Old Mar 22nd 2018, 01:24 PM   #45
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Originally Posted by mark419ny View Post
interesting takes and i agree with every one. danny was the perfect #2 and almost won a championship here or there. Zarco and MM will be very interesting for sure.
im saying JLO to suzuki iaonne out.
I've been thinking JLO to Suzuki also. He's in a really shitty position with basically no other options at the end of the year if he doesn't start winning on the Duc.
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Old Mar 22nd 2018, 01:50 PM   #46
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Originally Posted by mark419ny View Post
touch a nerve lol no but looks like i sure did. here are some facts while you produced none
Rossi vs Stoner 2007 - 2012
102 starts 99starts
21 wins 38 wins
20.5% 38.4%
2 titles 2 titles


Rossi vs Pedrosa
191 starts 182 starts
35 wins 29 wins
18.3% 15.9%
2 titles 0 titles

Rossi vs Lorenzo
Overall
2008 - 2016
156 starts 156 starts
26 wins 44 wins
16.7% 28.2%
2 titles 3 titles

On the same equipment
2009-2010 2013-2016
103 starts 106 starts
17 wins 34 wins
16.5% 32%
1 title 2 titles

Rossi vs Marquez
72 starts 72 starts
9 wins 29 wins
12.5% 40.3%
0 titles 3 titles

enjoy another losing 3 seasons.
Lol, you are quite comical, though you seem to lack reading skills. Just because I didn't provide numbers doesn't negate that everything I wrote is a fact. In fact, I challenge you and your stats to disprove anything I wrote in this thread. Good luck with that, by the way. Why are you so hell bent on proving me wrong? Do you want his autograph? I can get it for you
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Originally Posted by DucatiTerminator View Post
Lol, you are quite comical, though you seem to lack reading skills. Just because I didn't provide numbers doesn't negate that everything I wrote is a fact. In fact, I challenge you and your stats to disprove anything I wrote in this thread. Good luck with that, by the way. Why are you so hell bent on proving me wrong? Do you want his autograph? I can get it for you
I'll take one. Made out to me specifically with a photo of him signing it. Thanks!! Lol
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Old Mar 22nd 2018, 02:27 PM   #48
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I'll take one. Made out to me specifically with a photo of him signing it. Thanks!! Lol
A personalized one will take a little work, but I'll try. Any area he attends (box, trailer, mobile office, motorhome, press area) has a mob of fans waiting for a chance to see him. Indy paddock used to be the most laid back and I had him sign helmets for my son on a couple of occasions. CoTA can be tough so I had a friend of mine who runs hospitality for Repsol get it for me since he's still tight with him from his Honda days. He brought it to his motorhome and went to pick it up later due to the busy rider schedules. If that's the case this time, I won't be able to get the photo of him signing. Now if it's Marc, I tend to run into him at Repsol hospitality while I'm visiting my friend.
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I've got 2 rossi helmets (which fit like shit for my astrodome noggen) but no Marquez helmets lol.

I was just teasin. I would definitely take one but I wouldn't want anyone to go out of their way to get it.
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No guarantees, but I will try for sure. My schedule is pretty hectic at times. I used to have a hot friend umbrella girl in tow, and she knew more people than I did so it made things a lot easier, lol.
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