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Old Jun 10th 2018, 05:47 AM   #11
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No reason for Rea to go from factory WSB to satellite Motogp bike and finish mid or be a back marker. WSB used to be real trick bikes till they got bought by Motogp who promptly neutered it in terms of allowable mods and updates. It’s pretty much superstock now as no kit cams, valves, cranks, airboxes and other goodies. Back in the day these same parts were supposed to be available for sale to anyone and yes they were always on back order and it’s was rare for a private team to get them. But the factory guys had really trick WSB bikes. I was at Laguna in 1997 for WSB and it was awesome. So now WSB is the NASCAR of bike racing and it’s lost some of its appeal to me.
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Old Jun 10th 2018, 07:32 AM   #12
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Originally Posted by DCPanni View Post
No reason for Rea to go from factory WSB to satellite Motogp bike and finish mid or be a back marker. WSB used to be real trick bikes till they got bought by Motogp who promptly neutered it in terms of allowable mods and updates. Itís pretty much superstock now as no kit cams, valves, cranks, airboxes and other goodies. Back in the day these same parts were supposed to be available for sale to anyone and yes they were always on back order and itís was rare for a private team to get them. But the factory guys had really trick WSB bikes. I was at Laguna in 1997 for WSB and it was awesome. So now WSB is the NASCAR of bike racing and itís lost some of its appeal to me.
I'm not disagreeing with you , but

a 2018 bmw, yam, Kaw, hondo, duc, would be -from the show room floor - more loaded with trick goodies than a bike from the good old days.

bikes today come stock loaded with trick parts. the trend is now the rule so no going back IMO. an example of how this is the lap times of wsbk vs motogp

imagine trying to differentiate the production from the prototype racing if you were in charge . again IMO it has been very hard to make hay for both motogp and wsbk with the blurred lines we've been experiencing due to the Motorcycle climate and the shrinking gap between the two (motogp N wsbk)
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Old Jun 10th 2018, 08:08 AM   #13
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Not much right. Boring? Slow Panigale? Rea doesnt make mistakes.. Hoho..
Race 2 was a blast!
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Old Jun 10th 2018, 08:46 AM   #14
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Not much right. Boring? Slow Panigale? Rea doesnt make mistakes.. Hoho..
Race 2 was a blast!



Yes it was!!!
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Old Jun 10th 2018, 09:19 AM   #15
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Yep great race 2. 5 other racers besides JR have won this season.

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Old Jun 11th 2018, 07:31 AM   #16
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Yep great race 2. 5 other racers besides JR have won this season.
The problem is with the new rules, it has come at Ducati's expense, it's no big deal to cut the revs of a 4 banger. If dorna wants more parody let the other teams test more.
I wouldn't be complaining at all if Ducati was winning every race,it's a great pity Ducati was not able to out bid Kawasaki for him.
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Old Jun 11th 2018, 10:18 AM   #17
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If Ducati threatens to pull out of WSBK at the end of whatever year. they will get what rules they want adjusted. WSBK needs all the Manufactures. Suzuki needs to get their ass into the party. Shit throw a one rider team in the series. They only need one rider for moto america. Tony Elias is spanking everyone at will.
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Old Jun 11th 2018, 10:43 AM   #18
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Yep its been pretty boring.

MotoAmerica has been great though fyi
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Old Jun 12th 2018, 01:10 AM   #19
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Its still boring because its false with all the individual handicaps, it should be about who produces the best bike and riders, as soon as they do that they handicap them, should be that there are base rules for all like BSB then its up to the rest like Yamaha to catch up.
To be fair the only reason Yamaha have won in the last two is because they handicapped the Kawasaki and Ducati,....and changed the 2nd grid line up, Yamaha did not need to raise their bar to win the rest just lowered theirs, whats next they have to run a 959?
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Originally Posted by Goshow1199 View Post
If Ducati threatens to pull out of WSBK at the end of whatever year. they will get what rules they want adjusted. WSBK needs all the Manufactures. Suzuki needs to get their ass into the party. Shit throw a one rider team in the series. They only need one rider for moto america. Tony Elias is spanking everyone at will.
The talk is that the BSB effort may have a run at WSBK next season for Suzuki. Ducati will probably grumble a bit, but they have the V4 coming to the grid next year and at this point, nobody really knows how competitive it will be. Just IMHO though.
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