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Old Sep 4th 2018, 05:05 AM   #1
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Electronic Scoring Unit

Hi all,
So, I am now a licensed CCS Amateur! Wahoo! Just in time for the season to end....
Well, I wanted to get licensed to start running the next season competitively, So I couldn't have done it too much later.
My question is, reading all the mounting instructions for the ESU (electronic scoring unit) I am a bit confused as to where I'm going to mount this thing.

Here's my dilemna:
The rule book states the following:
5.4.2 All machines must have the ESU properly mounted before going to technical
inspection. Machines without the ESU properly installed will not be given a
tech sticker and cannot enter the racecourse until gaining approval. The ESU is considered
to be properly mounted if it is securely fastened to the right front fork leg, right
front fork tube or right side of fairing where the signal can be read by the ground
antenna and activated by passing through the activation area..It is the riders responsibility
to insure proper activation of the ESU before entering the racecourse.
A. There can be no solid metal or carbon fiber between the mounted ESU and the
ground antenna. In all cases where motorcycle chassis or body work design places
solid metal or carbon fiber between the ESU and the ground antenna, it is the riders
responsibility to provide an adequate or alternate mounting location that allows the ESU
to be activated and to function properly.


While the instructions state:
No metal or carbon fiber between transmitter and track. The transmitter must have a clear shot
to the ground.


So, I have carbon fiber race fairings, carbon fiber front fender, carbon fiber ram air duct. Researching some photos of other Panigales racing CCS show these types of mounting positions:




In the first image you can see the bright green box mounted to the front fairing stay just in front of the steering stabilizer. Now, according to the instructions and rule book, this wouldn't work with a carbon fiber ram air duct, or a metallic fairing stay. Also transmission to the sides would be blocked by carbon fiber side and nose fairings.

In the second image you can see the bright green box mounted to the right front inner fairing. It looks like he/she may have it mounted to the right ram air cover. Well,.. I don't have these anymore and also the transmission again would be blocked by the carbon fiber fairing.

Can you all please show where you have your ESU's mounted? And maybe give some guidance on where to mount this thing when using carbon fiber? The help is MUCH appreciated!

-Matt-
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Old Sep 4th 2018, 06:01 AM   #2
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The antenna of the timing system is mounted into the pavement. The ESU on the bike, needs its antenna pointed down towards the surface of the track, with no carbon fiber or metal between it and the track surface. The fairings in your photos shown may be fiberglass or sharkskins, that do not have carbon fiber in them, which is conductive and will attenuate the signals. So if they are fiberglass, its ok to use and have it between the ESU antenna and the track surface.
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Old Sep 4th 2018, 08:07 AM   #3
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I Ride: '16 Pani R, 1098R Bayliss, KTM1090R.
Just put it on the fork as it states. There is plenty room for a transponder at the base of
the fork tube without fouling on the fairing. I've run a mylaps transponder there for the
last 2 seasons without issue.
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Old Sep 4th 2018, 09:27 AM   #4
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Originally Posted by 990Glen View Post
Just put it on the fork as it states. There is plenty room for a transponder at the base of
the fork tube without fouling on the fairing. I've run a mylaps transponder there for the
last 2 seasons without issue.
I wish I could. That would be simple. Someone wasn't thinking straight when they decided which area the signal goes through. See the orientation and note from the instructions:

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I Ride: '16 Pani R, 1098R Bayliss, KTM1090R.
Haha, quality design. Bellypan it is then.
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Old Sep 4th 2018, 01:01 PM   #6
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Originally Posted by 990Glen View Post
Just put it on the fork as it states. There is plenty room for a transponder at the base of
the fork tube without fouling on the fairing. I've run a mylaps transponder there for the
last 2 seasons without issue.
This.

Nearly all of our class have their transponder on the fork legs, some in between the triple clamps (i have mine put there) some on the lower section.
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