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Old Jun 6th 2019, 12:41 PM   #1
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Tire life SP/TD/SC

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I wanted to know if anyone solely use these tires on track only.
I recently just burnt through a set of SP tires after 3 track days.
Granted this tires spent their whole life at a right bias track i wore to the point where the tire grooves were non existent.
I ran 27 lbs in the rear and 33-34 in the front hot.
I question my tire pressures due to the fact that I just read a review that showed the tire life of a Supercorsa TD after 3 track days and it still looked mint.
This came off a track day instructors bike - granted he is probably a smoother rider than me, but the difference was significant in the wear.
He was also onboard a GSXR 750 i am on a Panigale R.
Even my front tire was flush on the side with the groove.
I am an advanced track day rider and probably well above most track day rider skills. I am not bragging I am sure i will be getting my behind handed to me this summer in Armature class, actually I promise it

Anyone else run the TD tire yet, track only? How about the SP?
Is the TD compound that much better for wear tolerances than the SP?
I have two rears and one front TD tires ready for battle coming up soon.
I still have a set of SP tires ready to mount Monday. It will live on a right bias track again for two days and then a left bias track for two days.
I will then mount the TD tires and head to a 3 day event.
What tire pressures should i run on the TD, am i running good pressures on the SP?

What should i expect out of an SC tire.

I know this is a loaded question. Please answer if you have experience on these tires on the track only. Street use is not important to me,.

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Originally Posted by 1299rFE View Post
Good afternoon

I wanted to know if anyone solely use these tires on track only.
I recently just burnt through a set of SC tires after 3 track days.
Granted this tires spent their whole life at a right bias track i wore to the point where the tire grooves were non existent.
I ran 27 lbs in the rear and 33-34 in the front hot.
I question my tire pressures due to the fact that I just read a review that showed the tire life of a Supercorsa TD after 3 track days and it still looked mint.
This came off a track day instructors bike - granted he is probably a smoother rider than me, but the difference was significant in the wear.
He was also onboard a GSXR i am on a Panigale R.
Even my front tire was flush on the side with the groove.
I am an advanced track day rider and probably well above most track day rider skills. I am not bragging I am sure i will be getting my behind handed to me this summer in Armature class, actually I promise it

Anyone else run the TD tire yet, track only? How about the SP?
Is the TD compound that much better for wear tolerances than the SP?
I have two rears and one front TD tires ready for battle coming up soon.
I still have a set of SP tires ready to mount Monday. It will live on a right bias track again for two days and then a left bias track for two days.
I will then mount the TD tires and head to a 3 day event.
What tire pressures should i run on the TD, am i running good pressures on the SP?

What should i expect out of an SC tire.

I know this is a loaded question. Please answer if you have experience on these tires on the track only. Street use is not important to me,.
stay with SC's.

3 track days is pretty good!. I was using a rear every meeting (SC0, SC1) and front I could get 2 meetings (SC2)

Were they tearing up? or just no meat left?

My first try at full slicks (after SC\s) I cold tore the rear after one race due to to high pressure (followed recommended pressure). I had to drop 3 psi and increase the tire warmers temp.

Can you post a good close pic off what you tire looks like? what pressure/temps are you seeing when you come off the track?
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If you’re not running on the street then why not go with a SC2/3 slick?

I’m also interested in the new TD tires if anyone has first hand info.
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Old Jun 7th 2019, 05:14 AM   #4
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stay with SC's.

3 track days is pretty good!. I was using a rear every meeting (SC0, SC1) and front I could get 2 meetings (SC2)

Were they tearing up? or just no meat left?

My first try at full slicks (after SC\s) I cold tore the rear after one race due to to high pressure (followed recommended pressure). I had to drop 3 psi and increase the tire warmers temp.

Can you post a good close pic off what you tire looks like? what pressure/temps are you seeing when you come off the track?
I am not supper fast, so a rear tire every meeting is not what i will need.
I am being told i should at the minimal get a 2 rear to 1 front.
No meet left, it is down past the groove and the tire is flat on the edge on the right. The left is fine, the track is heavily distorted to right hand turns.
I spoke with the Pirelli Rep and he said it is a smooth track and i should be running 35 front hot and 30 rear hot on the SP and the TD tire.
I was running 27 rear and 33 front.
I have a brand new set of SP tire to mount on Monday.
I also have two sets of the TD tire to run.
I think after those sets i will be either going to a full Slick or a SC DOT and run a SC2 rear and SC1 front.

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Originally Posted by Rogue View Post
If youíre not running on the street then why not go with a SC2/3 slick?

Iím also interested in the new TD tires if anyone has first hand info.
I have heard to not run tires if you still have room to grow on the tires that offer you enough grip. I am a fast track day guy, but slow compared to guys who race.

I have 1 more set of SP tires to go through, which i will this coming week, then next Sunday 6/16 i will be running a set of TD tires.
If the TD tires hold as well as i think i may stay with them for the remainder of the year. I may go to a SC tire not sure. I am getting my race license in August and may switch to an SC Combo SC1 front and SC2 rear. My race class says i can run slicks if i want to go slicks, but i am guessing the DOC SC tires will be well beyond my talent. A full SC slick will be well above and beyond my talent. The SP tires for me stick like glue - i didn't get the rear tire to move - it did wiggle but i am guessing that is the carcass and not me spinning the rear tire. I had the traction setting at 4 and the light didn't flicker that i noticed at all.
I can get the TD tires in 200/55/17 and 120/70/17 mounted and balanced for $359 and the SC DOT for $435. If i can save $76 a set for now i will lol.
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SP tire update - I ran a new set of SP tires at Club Motorsports ( a fast track, lots of downhill turns) for two days , the track is predominantly a right handed track. I ran tire pressures at 30 hot rear and 35 hot front. I did notice the tire had small slices in the tires, i was told it could have been from the traction control. I was also told i was leaving black lines out of a corner, so wheel spin? The tires felt planted and i only had the rear noticeably slip out once towards the end of the second day, on a left turn. Monday was 86* for a high and Tuesday was *76.

I spent a third day in Loudon NH - this track is bumpy and the tarmac is not smooth, the very opposite of what i was riding the day prior. I was told by Mike at MTAG, our northeast Pirelli dealer to run lower pressures due to the track condition. The tire had a ton of tire left on the left and little tire left on the right. The front tire looked fine this time. At the end of the 3rd day i logged a total of 292 track miles on two different tracks. Air temp was 74*. IF it had not rained yesterday i would have pressed on with a 4th day on the rear and front. I would turn the traction control up a click or two to ensure safety. I would have full confidence that the front tire would be fine for 2 more days - a total for a total of 5.

Yesterday I spent the morning getting my TD tires mounted on for a three day event out on NYST. I am gong to run the tire pressures at 35F 30R hot to see how the new TD tires works out. I would imagine the rear will need replacing after 3 days. I then have another two day even the 28th and 29th (28th is open pit lane) at Canaan. I am hoping the front will make it through all 5 days. I will then head to Thompson CT with a fresh front and a rear with two days on it. I am hoping to head to Calabogie with a fresh rear and a front with just one day on it. I will keep this vlog updated.
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Originally Posted by Rogue View Post
If youíre not running on the street then why not go with a SC2/3 slick?

Iím also interested in the new TD tires if anyone has first hand info.
I will have direct feedback on these by next Wednesday
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Getting up to 3 meets for a rear is pretty good. Most guys flip their rears (slicks) before one side gets destroyed. Phillip Island with an sc1 slick is getting close to the wear markers after 4 sessions . More grip = more wear, as long as you can manage cold tear . I've heard that the SC3 aren't that great and Pirelli were going to revise the compound. Some reports I heard that their grip was signicantly less grip than SC1 & 2 . Maybe fast guys looking to use less rubber?
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Originally Posted by Calderara di Reno View Post
Getting up to 3 meets for a rear is pretty good. Most guys flip their rears (slicks) before one side gets destroyed. Phillip Island with an sc1 slick is getting close to the wear markers after 4 sessions . More grip = more wear, as long as you can manage cold tear . I've heard that the SC3 aren't that great and Pirelli were going to revise the compound. Some reports I heard that their grip was signicantly less grip than SC1 & 2 . Maybe fast guys looking to use less rubber?
At Hidden Valley A rear(SC1 or SC0)would last only a meeting. the front SC2 I could get 2.
Some of the slower guys would us SC3 rear/SC1 front to get more meetings if they didnt want used tires off the pro's

I stay with SC's rather than slicks mainly due to price.
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At least you dont have to contend with cold temperature up that end of the island !
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