1299S or '13 1199R

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Hey guys, looking at changing over from my old S1000RR to a panigale. Prices between the first gen 1199R and 1299S are fairly comparable, so which would you buy and why? My thought is that the R will likely hold its value better but both bikes are amazing!

Thanks heaps for any advice

Dougie
 
Mostly road use with a couple of track days a year. Not commuting, just a Sunday rider.
 
I'm biased because I made my choice, the 1299S.

The 1299S came about because many people complained about the loss of mid range on the 1199's compared to the earlier 1098/1198's.

To gain this mid range torque back, which is where most of us ride, rpm wise on the street, Ducati went with a slightly bigger bore, rather than a longer stroke.

You might get a slight advantage, on the track, with a 1199R, but it is minimal and you'll probably having to be riding 10/10th's to squeeze it out.

Both are great, but I think you'll be better served for Sunday morning fun with the 1299.
 
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as much as it's hard to pass on a R, i think in this case, the 1299S would be the better choice. It's newer, the engine is much better, the electronics are better, and you'll get clutchless downshifts which will completely change your ride
 
Had '13R, now have 1299, which I prefer for street especially mid range as ChrisE stated. For me seating, pegs, heat, wind/stability, and handling seem better as well on street. Fair point on resale of R, but I don't think either's good anyway given constant intro of new tech and editions... good luck, fun position to be in
 
By your description I'd say the 1299s. Now if you were talking the '15 up PaniR, then it would be a tough choice.
 
Thanks for the opinions lads. Seems like the 1299S will be the better option although historically the R's do seem to hold value well. If I do get the 'R I'll look at the tuneboy system to gain a lot of the 1299 advantages.

Thanks again guys

Dougie
 
I would take the 1299S as it sounds like a more refined 1199 with better motor, electronics pkg, better electronic suspension. Overall all a better bike. As far as resale I think the 1299S would have the edge just for being newer with new upgrades and the 13' R is the least special R ever built.
 
I had the same thoughts last year and went with the 1299s, I wanted a bit more of an road biased bike. After having x2 999r I wanted a break from the high value bike. Although it make financial sense to by the R if you will plan to fit exhaust and carbon etc, but you can't really split the parts out when you resale.
(Edit due to iPhone autocorrect)
 
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A R is a R is a R is a R :D:D:D

I am still super happy with my R and never had any problem with it on the street (no trackdays/trainings). And there are many goodies like lots of carbonfibre, 2 exhaust systems, lighter overall weight etc.

And it has been built only for a very short time and it is the only R with LED-lighting and electronic suspension. So I think it will always have a better value than a standard 1299(S), well the used 1299S are here in Switzerland already cheaper than a used and drive 1199 Panigale R.
 
"It is the only R with LED-lighting and electronic suspension."
Are these things significant at all, on an R? As both are things that are likely
be removed for R(acing) would this dissuade peeps from buying it? Don't get me wrong, lovely bikes.
 
.... only Duc superbike to not win a world championship (other than V4, but it still has time)
 
Right?

Still blows my mind

Light as a 600 and over 200 hp stock wtf Ducati

Lucky for me I’m a huge fan of Kawasaki : )
 
Think Rea is underestimated - also seems like the Kawasaki really suits him.
 
I remember Rea riding the wheels offa that Honda, often for little reward, or podiums. He got on the Kawi, and just gelled with it, never looked back. Shame its so FOOKIN ugly! I left an 04 Zx10r to go Italian, and I too never looked back!
 

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