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Blade Runner

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Not sure how many of you remember these days. I for sure do!!! The days of 36 racers lining up on the most insane, violent, no electronic nanny bikes ever. Great times indeed!!!

Back then I had a 1990 Kawasaki ZX7 on special order. I went against the norm and ordered black. The only bike to this day I regret selling. I had a fully built Merrill Plumbly built motor. The exact same motor Doug Chandler had. I still have the drawings or should I say Faxes from him to my father on how to machine the engine cases. Talk about getting creative with the motor. LOL!!! Crazy stuff back then. No internet for resources. You truly just had to know people in the know. And lucky for me I was in very good with the people from Muzzy. Great times indeed!!!

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Blade Runner said:
Not sure how many of you remember these days. I for sure do!!! The days of 36 racers lining up on the most insane, violent, no electronic nanny bikes ever. Great times indeed!!!

Back then I had a 1990 Kawasaki ZX7 on special order. I went against the norm and ordered black. The only bike to this day I regret selling. I had a fully built Merrill Plumbly built motor. The exact same motor Doug Chandler had. I still have the drawings or should I say Faxes from him to my father on how to machine the engine cases. Talk about getting creative with the motor. LOL!!! Crazy stuff back then. No internet for resources. You truly just had to know people in the know. And lucky for me I was in very good with the people from Muzzy. Great times indeed!!!

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Yep I'm hearing you,when men were men ,bring back the two strokes with no electronic intervention,that'll sort out the real riders.
 
Those were the days.. Look how close they are on the grid, almost close enough to lean across and hit the kill switch on the bike next to you ;)

I remember Gary McCoy spending most of his time going sideways!
 
BenF04 said:
Those were the days.. Look how close they are on the grid, almost close enough to lean across and hit the kill switch on the bike next to you ;)

I remember Gary McCoy spending most of his time going sideways!
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good old Mr Squiggle he nearly one the title on the Redbull Yamaha until he broke his leg, a riders rider,that must have been one of Doohans first gp rides.
 
I remember watching those races on vhs at lunch break LOL

they were Men not these sissy pedicure having babies we have today .

a few years after this the world changed . makes me sad to think of how the guy I thought would be on the grid for ever got moved to a wheelchair. Rainey is a legend .

I don't think MarcM could drag elbow on one of these monsters
 
Macattack said:
I remember watching those races on vhs at lunch break LOL

they were Men not these sissy pedicure having babies we have today .


I don't think MarcM could drag elbow on one of these monsters
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i think he could tires are much better and sport has progressed.
 
I never got to race a TZ 750 or 500, but I raced a TZ 250 B a TZ 350 and I had a reed valve 375 top end I would use for the AFM 500 GP class. being in a large pack of closely matched 2 strokes in anger are some of my fondest memories, the leaded high octane race gas and bean oil is the sweetest perfume I know of, talk about racing with a woodie.
I hate electronic aids, I bought my 1199 base, because it was the last one on the floor without any of the electronic crap on it, and it was the lighter than the S or ABS models.
The day I need electronic aids to ride fast, is the day I hang up my spurs.
 
centeroff said:
I never got to race a TZ 750 or 500, but I raced a TZ 250 B a TZ 350 and I had a reed valve 375 top end I would use for the AFM 500 GP class. being in a large pack of closely matched 2 strokes in anger are some of my fondest memories, the leaded high octane race gas and bean oil is the sweetest perfume I know of, talk about racing with a woodie.
I hate electronic aids, I bought my 1199 base, because it was the last one on the floor without any of the electronic crap on it, and it was the lighter than the S or ABS models.
The day I need electronic aids to ride fast, is the day I hang up my spurs.
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the 1199 has traction control.
 
reganc said:
i think he could tires are much better and sport has progressed.
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maybe, but I was referring to "in the day"

also It seems MM learns a lot from crashing in practice and an algorithm is enhanced from this data . back in the day not much was learned from crashing and the crashes MM has seem like they are lessoned by electronic intervention . as if they seem like he is more likely to low side .

but back in the day the bikes would seem more likely to spit the rider fifty feet in the air without warning.

I should not have brought up MM but it seems he is able to use the electronics better than most.
so by that logic he seems the most dependent on electronics
so it seems his elbow dragging style is somewhat electronic dependent
obviously I could be completely all wrong .
 
Those were the days!

My first road bike was a Pepsi RGV and i can recall very fondly going to Eastern Creek every year to watch the racing.

Men were men and sheep were nervous!
 
I think the sheep are still nervous!!

That was the day of some great racing. I had the pleasure of racing World Superkart with Eddie and Wayne for years after they retired from motorcycles. Two great guys and class acts...Wayne's dad Sandy who passed in 2016 was a really good guy and helped me with my TZ250 engine..Lot's of good memories..
 
HFW003 said:
Those were the days!

My first road bike was a Pepsi RGV and i can recall very fondly going to Eastern Creek every year to watch the racing.

Men were men and sheep were nervous!
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I rode an RGV500 ONCE. Worst head shake ever. Gave it right back to the owner. He asked if I would like to go again. I said. NO! LOL!!!
 
Macattack said:
maybe, but I was referring to "in the day"

also It seems MM learns a lot from crashing in practice and an algorithm is enhanced from this data . back in the day not much was learned from crashing and the crashes MM has seem like they are lessoned by electronic intervention . as if they seem like he is more likely to low side .

but back in the day the bikes would seem more likely to spit the rider fifty feet in the air without warning.

I should not have brought up MM but it seems he is able to use the electronics better than most.
so by that logic he seems the most dependent on electronics
so it seems his elbow dragging style is somewhat electronic dependent
obviously I could be completely all wrong .
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If Marquez had grown up "in the day" he would have been fast "in the day" because he would have learned on those bikes. Stoner would have been the same way. Talent is talent; Marquez would have found a way to push those bikes to their limit too. It's silly to think he couldn't. Rossi was able to, why wouldn't Marquez be able to do the same?
 
ghostdog6 said:
If Marquez had grown up "in the day" he would have been fast "in the day" because he would have learned on those bikes. Stoner would have been the same way. Talent is talent; Marquez would have found a way to push those bikes to their limit too. It's silly to think he couldn't. Rossi was able to, why wouldn't Marquez be able to do the same?
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I agree . I was referring to his body position and the current trend to leaning off the bike with the throttle pinned and letting the bike do the work.

I actually think it would take some getting used to if you just time machined into today from 1995. It would be unnerving to me to know you just hold the throttle and trust the bike. I've never hear any motogp racers say this , so again I might be completely wrong.

marquez could kick everyones ... on a flat track bike and flat track course Too IMO

I was also referring to MM strange ability to low side every time now.
can you imagine him in 1990's hanging off the bike and it let go the rear - he'd end up in outer space . again IMO

marc marquez is an enigma I should not have brought him up
 

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