Anyone want to guess what the top speed of the 2015 1199R and the 1299 will be?

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MCN already tested the 1299 at 179 so I will say 184 for the R

MCN stated that was in a strong head wind that affected top speed.:D

On the demo I went (---) and verified with my GPS contour 187mph (it gets there insanely quick) and the bike was still pulling hard and i backed off before it hit the rev limiter. I plan on doing some test runs on my 1299 S after the first service.
 
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base, cored exhaust, akra map, MWR filter, 14 t front sprocket

GPS speed from dda+ : 306 kph = 190 mph (and i am a fatass, chickening out...)

so my guess: 1299S = 195 mph 1199R = 202 mph (higher rev limit)
 

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base, cored exhaust, akra map, MWR filter, 14 t front sprocket

GPS speed from dda+ : 306 kph = 190 mph (and i am a fatass, chickening out...)

so my guess: 1299S = 195 mph 1199R = 202 mph (higher rev limit)
i think you could be right.. After thinking about it and looking at a few graphs and going to gearing commander. Gearing commander now has the 1299 and their chart shows 199 mph at 11,500 rpm for the 1299; I doubt it will do 199, but it's a fun exercise to speculate.

Cheers and thanks for the response.
 
Yes i was stupid but it was early not much traffic a few cars out it didnt take long to get there and i backed off really quick. i really wasnt trying to see top end i was just testing the acceleration and got carried away with a huge smile on my face.:)
 
Thanks 80shilling. That's an interesting exercise for a bit of fun. My guess is an identical 297 km/h (185 mph) for each of 1299 and 15R.

They each have the same max power (205 PS), so they will share the same Vmax if they are each geared optimally for Vmax. It's a different situation if they are undergeared (which is quote possible) and reach Vmax at an RPM that is closer to redline.

It was difficult to find a good starting reference point for this - I think everyone knows that speedos are unreliable, and there's lots of folk who've seen their bikes go to redline in 6th, but the most scientific reference I've seen is this from Motorrad on an 1199 S at the Nardo Ring.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i5J6yuYDQU4

It shows GPS Vmax of 292 km/h (181 mph) at something less than redline. That means Drag = Force, and we can use the relationship that power is proportional to speed cubed. Next, check RPM from drive ratio to find engine speed was ~10,500 RPM. That's pretty close to RPM of 10,750 for Pmax (192 PS), so it seems OK to assume the P at Vmax was ~192 PS.

Then, assume that 1299/15R have the similar aero drag as the 1199 S, and assume that driveline power losses of the 1299/15R are the same as the 1199 S.

Take Pmax of 1299 and 15R at 205 PS, and assume that driveline power losses are small relative to engine power, then Vmax with optimal gearing calculates to ~297 km/h (185 mph). Check gearing of 1299 to confirm RPM of 10,700 at Vmax, which is close to RPM of 10,500 for Pmax, so it seems OK to assume the P at Vmax was ~205 PS. Check gearing of 15R to confirm RPM of 11,200 at Vmax, which is close to RPM of 11,500 for Pmax, so it seems OK to assume the P at Vmax was ~205 PS.
 
Going fast on the Street and Top speed limits on bikes..

:cool: I believe there is an international agreement that all manufacturers will limit the top speed to 300 kph.. (186.4 mph) I have found this to be true on the last three bikes I bought. 2007 ZX14 2011 ZX10R and 2013 ZX14.. Of course all of them can be modified with simple mods to do away with the top speed limit.. Or you can have the ECU reflashed to stop the top speed limit among other things also.. That is what I did on the 2013 ZX14 and the 2100 ZX10r

About the only time I ever did over 180 anyway ( in 2010 with my 2007 ZX14 with full Yoshimura exhaust PCM3 ) I ran 190.8 mph back to back runs. Not bad fr a 6'5'' 245 lbs in full leathers) " I am not what you would call "aerodynamic" by any stretch of the imagination LOL) I was at the Texas Mile run held twice a year in Goliad Texas.. At no other time would I ever need to exceed that speed.. Most road race tracks we have around here will not see over 186 anyway,** unless they are superbikes or GP bikes..and professional race teams etc. Don't forget that eventually you have to slow down enough to make the first turn!! :eek:
Lot's of guys make their bike go faster but forget about the brake modifications..!!

In my opinion, other than bragging rights, None of us NEED to go that fast. It is just an ego thing. Doing that kind of speed on the street will get you (and possibly others) killed And if caught, at the least you could be put in jail for quite some time, have your bike impounded and face heavy legal fees etc.
Nowadays it is hard to get away from he cops.. They have radios in their patrol cars and usually you can't outrun Motorola LOL... I learned that lesson the hard way many years ago..LOL...

I have a saying "There are Old riders and there are Bold Riders...... But VERY few Old Bold riders..! By the grace of God I survived my youth.. Many will not..
Take the advice of an OLD Bold rider..... Keep the crazy high speed stuff on the track. You will learn in a safer environment and you will learn to be a better and safer rider on the street. And you will not have to contend with cagers looking down at cell phones etc. Besides it is absolutely addicting and you really learn more.. It is a rush!..

Just my opinion others may vary..

Speedy
 
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They do a similar event in California called the Mojave Mile. I have thought about going out there to get my 200 mph license.
 
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I'm a little surprised the ZX-14 isn't good for an honest 200 mph, that thing is a monster. I love speed but generally keep it below 120-140 on the roads, and only away from city traffic
 
Just back from a little speedtest.
As a kind of autobahn ist close to my home, sunday evening is perfect to do a testing.
It was a little bit disappointing. Could not get faster than 284 km/h with my 1299 S.
With the 1199 S and Terimigoni slip-ons it was 295.6 km/h on same condition/autobahn.
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Just back from a little speedtest.
As a kind of autobahn ist close to my home, sunday evening is perfect to do a testing.
It was a little bit disappointing. Could not get faster than 284 km/h with my 1299 S.
With the 1199 S and Terimigoni slip-ons it was 295.6 km/h on same condition/autobahn.
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probably due to the engine being tight still, since they are pretty new. Do the test again with a few thousand miles on the 1299. I have nearly 2,000 miles on mine now and the engine is freeing up quite nicely and it's definitely revving faster/better than when it only had 500-600 miles on it.
 
your exhaust valve is definitely closing under full throttle above 9k!
Mine struggled to get above 175-180 (indicated) before I disconnected the servo and lock wired it open. You will pull 10.5-11k rpm in top no probs after doing this. ;)
 
your exhaust valve is definitely closing under full throttle above 9k!
Mine struggled to get above 175-180 (indicated) before I disconnected the servo and lock wired it open. You will pull 10.5-11k rpm in top no probs after doing this. ;)

Chillo

I have read many of your post about the exhaust valve. I have question for you. How is it even possible that the exhaust valve is closing under full acceleration above 9k? Reason I ask is that I would think that the exhaust pressure would be more than enough along with the spring to get the valve open. Yet I read from your post that you need to safety wire the valve open.

Next question. I understand why the valve is there. But why would Ducati allow it not to stay fully open under full throttle at high RPM? Sounds counter productive on Ducati's part.

Thank you Chillo.
Dave-
 

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