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90% really? don't try and be politic in here. we're well past that...

Trauma said:
gnance, I will give up trying to convince you this is 90% Rich's fault, and 100% that it continues - you are set just as we, that is fine. Not worth fighting about a fight, kinda stupid. Ride safe :)
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Trauma said:
1. This was right after a thread where he told several they should get off the forum, die, and he threatened to sue them - then said he was leaving and never coming back.

2. He didn't post in the Marketplace.

3. very next quote from Burnsy: "Welcome back to hell rich good luck battling with the few brainless turds on here talking crap about things they have no idea about luvin the system geeza"

4. I only responded to Burnsy's thread above. Burnsy is the "customer" that told him we were talking about him.

He wants to bury the hatchet alright, in anyone that questions his postings and/or product.
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and what did Rich say with regard to Burnsy? Please guys leave it. Lets make this a decent thread.

I am not burnsy! contrary to some members beliefs.
I think i covered the point of AR customers posting on our behalf in my opening post.
Thanks"

He is trying....you guys won't let him.
And you're deduction that Rich is Burnsy is not accurate....don't quit your day job
 
the product and the seller are NOT decent; ergo, the thread as such will never be decent.

gnance said:
and what did Rich say with regard to Burnsy? Please guys leave it. Lets make this a decent thread.

I am not burnsy! contrary to some members beliefs.
I think i covered the point of AR customers posting on our behalf in my opening post.
Thanks"

He is trying....you guys won't let him.
And you're deduction that Rich is Burnsy is not accurate....don't quit your day job
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any issues you have take it up with one on one with AR.

If you don't like it don't buy it.

How ...... hard is that? I mean seriously are you guys ........ or something?
 
when you're promoted to mod, you can tell members what to do and not do. otherwise, if you don't like it, mind your business before telling anyone how to conduct theirs. get it?


gnance said:
any issues you have take it up with one on one with AR.

If you don't like it don't buy it.

How ...... hard is that? I mean seriously are you guys ........ or something?
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VAST said:
when you're promoted to mod, you can tell members what to do and not do. otherwise, if you don't like it, mind your business before telling anyone how to conduct theirs. get it?
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that's funny....

look in the mirror buddy
 
i have NOT prescribed anything to anyone here, save for telling members such as yourself to refrain from playing mod. you may peruse my posts. so on this point i have no issues looking into any mirrors whatsoever.

gnance said:
that's funny....

look in the mirror buddy
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All I'm asking for is for everyone to stop with all the AR ..... Let rich have one thread without any negativity on either end.

If it's not in the marketplace....who gives a ....? I mean really....there are bigger fish to fry.

If people have concerns or dislikes it's easy to talk to rich one on one if you are SERIOUSLY considering one of the exhausts. No need to get everyone all riled up.

I think this is very reasonable. Not telling anyone what to do, but rather trying to create a little peace and order is all. If you guys choose not to, then I feel it's ok to return some of the fire as I'm fed up with all of this.
 
who are you to ask for anything here? Rich made his own bed. you're making yours. at this rate, soon you'll both be sleeping in that same bed.

gnance said:
All I'm asking for is for everyone to stop with all the AR ..... Let rich have one thread without any negativity on either end.

If it's not in the marketplace....who gives a ....? I mean really....there are bigger fish to fry.

If people have concerns or dislikes it's easy to talk to rich one on one if you are SERIOUSLY considering one of the exhausts. No need to get everyone all riled up.

I think this is very reasonable. Not telling anyone what to do, but rather trying to create a little peace and order is all. If you guys choose not to, then I feel it's ok to return some of the fire as I'm fed up with all of this.
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Also, put yourself in his shoes

Like I said it is his livelihood.

I don't think Rich ever meant to mislead anyone. It is a new product and probably the most innovative pipe out there for the bike. There are going to be growing pains. I believe the results he got in his shop. Of course that may vary owner to owner.

Same thing happens with ducati.....they claim a lot of numbers with each new model. Seldom do they ever live up to that. SOmetimes work needs to be done. With each problem, a comes more solutions for the future. Only thing is Ducati is a fairly large corporation. A bunch of forum talk won't have the same impact to their livelihood as it will a small company.

Use a little respect and decency. I believe Rich is trying to do his best to inform people about his product, make a living, and resolve complications if only you guys would let him.
 
here's my unsolicited advice to you: go start a blog on the AR site w/ a forum-like interface and/or realtime shoutbox. then you with all of your alleged legit inquiries and product questions can satisfy your needs, along with the throngs of prospective AR buyers.

in fact Rich could set up a link page in the VENDOR'S area of this very awesome ducati1199.com forum for this AR blog as per above. you may then police your own site with Draconian rule.

gnance said:
wow....good one
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VAST said:
here's my unsolicited advice to you: go start a blog on the AR site w/ a forum-like interface and/or realtime shoutbox. then you with all of your alleged legit inquiries and product questions can satisfy your needs, along with the throngs of prospective AR buyers.
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Ok thanks buddy...I'll be sure to go do that.
 
Now you're both buddies, that's a start!

gnance after 30 posts of trying to change our minds, even you should see it ain't gonna happen. Rich said too many things here and other forums he can never take back. Methinks you just like to argue.
 
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gnance said:
Use a little respect and decency. I believe Rich is trying to do his best to inform people about his product, make a living, and resolve complications if only you guys would let him.
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This is funny in the context of AR.... Respect is earned and Rich has done nothing to earn any... Decency?? Well just look at the way Rich posts and tell me he shows any decency??? And in all honesty most of AR supporters have been anything but decent...I personally have been called some words I never heard in the Bible (as the song says) No matter what you claim Rich has brought this entirely upon himself...

It been stated over and over that if you or anybody else has an interest in this or any other AR products then he has a website Email and a phone.. so to state that we are somehow stifling your ability to inquire about his products seems very disingenuous to me...

I truly hope that if you reread the posts from this company then whilst you may still consider them a quality manufacturer you might also understand why this forum has reacted the way it has to Rich... I really do believe your faith in AR is misplaced ...

Please consider the context of members responses... The history of Rich on this and other forums... I think perhaps then you may realise that there is no agenda here just people who are long tired of the BS spouted by Rich..the lies..the diatribes...et al...
 
Trauma said:
Now you're both buddies, that's a start!

gnance after 30 posts of trying to change our minds, even you should see it ain't gonna happen. Rich said too many things here and other forums he can never take back. Methinks you just like to argue.
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you can lead a horse to water....

sad really. Kind of like the majority of conflict in the world. People can't agree to just let the past go and move forward in a positive direction.
 
Rich could always take his advertising to one if the other fabulous 1199 forums where we're not? History would suggest he'll run into the same problems but might be worth a try. I vow to avoid him elsewhere.
 

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