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Anyone know what type battery the 1199 comes with as standard. Now that we have a few owners, hopefully it will be quick.

Considering buying one of these...
https://www.shoraipower.com/p-152-lfx14a2-bs12.aspx

Ordering one for my RS125. Supposedly 6 lbs lighter than stock lead acid.

I do understand the 1199 already has a small and light battery. Never heard exactly what battery it has standard.

Thanks,

Chris
 
Not sure exactly which specific battery too. But, I was reading an article in the January edition of "Sport Rider" magazine about the engine. It was talking about the centrifugal flyweight used to make startups easier. Since it uses this centrifugal flywheel it makes startups easier and a larger battery and startup motor are not used so it cuts about 7 lbs of weight.

So, yes it does have a smaller battery and likely a smaller startup motor but still unknown which specific battery. I too was looking into buying a smaller battery like the one you were looking into. We shall see what the guys say that actually have their bikes.
 
I had to put one of the Shorai Lithium batteries on my 1198 as I had a tracker fitted and had issues with access to power.

I'm planning to put the same on the Panigale when she arrives as the extra cranking power, light weight and small size should all be advantages.

They are just quite pricey...
 
Thanks for the link. I'm pretty sure I'll be buying one. Cheap drop in weight and the higher CCA helps start these bikes.
I like the one on my 2009 Aprilia RS125. If it sits, it needs more cranking time to get the fuel suction to the carb to get it to start.

Battery is crazy light. Doesn't feel real, feels more like a prop.

Chris

Just a note of caution...
There are no free lunches, as such, LiFePO4 batteries really suck in really cold weather.
They will still crank the engine over, but will need the accessories running for a bit to "wake up" the cells.

I'll be dropping one in on mine as soon as it comes.
 
The shorai v stock comparison video was pretty convincing. About 4 lbs lighter, and starts easier. Seems like a no-brainer for me. Don't think I need to worry much about starting in cold weather here.
 
The shorai v stock comparison video was pretty convincing. About 4 lbs lighter, and starts easier. Seems like a no-brainer for me. Don't think I need to worry much about starting in cold weather here.

Oh yea? Is the Whale's Vagina warm year round? :D
 
For anybody wanting to know a bit more about them....Here is a link to some Aussies discussing them.

Lithium Motorcycle battery - Page 2 - ADVrider

Lots of flaff and confusion in that thread... One or two guys know what they're on about, but most appear to be confusing Lithium Ion batteries with Lithium Iron Phosphate batteries.

Lithium Ion - nominal voltage is 3.7v/cell

Pros
* Capable of very high charge and discharge rates - the latest cells can do 90x the rated capacity discharge and easily handle 5x rated capacity charge.
ie. A cell that is rated at 5Ah can discharged at 450A from full down to 20% ~3v/cell. They can charge @ 25A up to ~95% (just below 4.2V/cell)

* Does not suffer from memory effect

* Can be made to fit just about any shape or size

* Extremely high energy density - lightweight for

Cons
* Needs lots of TLC during charge process

* Can swell even catch on fire if discharged too much .. below 2.7v

* Can swell and catch fire if charged beyond 4.2v / cell

* Doesn't not tolerate heat very well. ie Temps above 40*C.

* Physically not very robust cells.

Lithium Iron Phosphate LiFePO4 - Nominal Voltage 3.3v/cell
Pros
*Relatively good discharge and charge ability. ~20C-25C

* Does not suffer from memory effect

* Can be discharged to virtually flat

* Stable over a much larger temp range

* Very physically robust cells. Especially if using A123 cells.

* Relatively high energy density - Lightweight for size

Cons

* Moderate amount of TLC required during charging

* Expensive


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IMO, for Motorcycles and Cars I'd be looking at packs that use A123 cells over anything that uses prismatic cells.
If treated with lots of TLC, ie using an integrated BMC, then it doesn't mater what the underlying cells are. But for packs that are sans BMC, it's difficult to go pass A123 cells, as they can handle ALOT of abuse.
 
I will be receiving a lithium on Friday and can give my opinion when it arrives. I had set up a group buy for locals to my area on another forum, and have 2 different chargers coming as well.

The lithium ones seem to fail often in the previous Ducati's but run fine in an inline-4, and I'm guessing it's because of the draw that the older Duc's pull on start-up. The Pani should do much better with the way it's designed to take less power to start.
 
which battery did you opt for?

I put a shorai (a lithium iron) in my streetfighter 8 months ago and it's been great!! I do know some guys are getting the lighter shorai, but motowheels recommends the size 18 (don't know the rest of the numbers) for the liter bikes.

I will be receiving a lithium on Friday and can give my opinion when it arrives. I had set up a group buy for locals to my area on another forum, and have 2 different chargers coming as well.

The lithium ones seem to fail often in the previous Ducati's but run fine in an inline-4, and I'm guessing it's because of the draw that the older Duc's pull on start-up. The Pani should do much better with the way it's designed to take less power to start.
 
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I have one of these on order for my 1199. The stock battery scares me when it barely rolls over to start it sometimes. I have one in my RS125 and it works perfectly.
Chris
 
imo, for motorcycles and cars i'd be looking at packs that use a123 cells over anything that uses prismatic cells.
If treated with lots of tlc, ie using an integrated bmc, then it doesn't mater what the underlying cells are. But for packs that are sans bmc, it's difficult to go pass a123 cells, as they can handle alot of abuse.

bmc?
 
I have an 8 cell coming, it's an alienmotion battery, and there is a 12 cell available, but an 8 cell turns a 999 with no issues. And, it weighs 820g.
There is a charger coming out for it that is a float type charger made to work with that specific brand and fits in the palm of your hand. I have one of those coming too, sounds pretty cool!
 
BMC - Battery Maintenance Charger.

Sometimes also referred to as a trickle charger but technically/technologically not the same.

And, be careful what charger you use with the lithium iron batteries - some are not compatible.
 
Oh, thanks.

So best (if going for the Shorai battery), to just get their BMC as well? $50 or something there abouts.

I currently have a battery 'tender' that came with the 848.
I assume it would not be compatible.
 

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