Brembo T-Drive Rotors

sirmalcome · Jul 11, 2013

I removed my original 330mm discs in favor of the smaller T-Drive units. I have had previous experience with this set up in the past

and wanted to retain the electronics that come equipped with this bike. I have completely removed the ABS system and now run a single brake line for each caliper up front. I had precision washers made to fill the counter sunk holes and this enabled the use of the sensor ring. They fit very snug and remain seated during disc removal when necessary.

ducducgoose9987 · Jul 11, 2013

Why would you do this? The OEM setup is rated amongst the best brakes on the market. I do not understand. I personally swapped out both my clutch and brake M/C for RCS units and it makes a world of difference. But to decrease the rotor size, unless going with a full ceramic... i do not understand??

Not trying to be a ...., just truly intrigued.

Frosty · Jul 12, 2013

ducducgoose9987 said:
Why would you do this? The OEM setup is rated amongst the best brakes on the market. I do not understand. I personally swapped out both my clutch and brake M/C for RCS units and it makes a world of difference. But to decrease the rotor size, unless going with a full ceramic... i do not understand??

Not trying to be a ...., just truly intrigued.

Yeah I don't get it. Unless you're racing your Pani, are you really going to see results of this mod? Doubt it.

XIXCIX · Jul 12, 2013

By the looks of it. You didn't just change the discs....

wilkson · Jul 12, 2013

Why remove the ABS ? Great feature on the bikes

Jariva · Jul 12, 2013

Downgrading an excellent brake system must be the craziest superbike modification I have ever heard of. Why?

anthem · Jul 12, 2013

ducducgoose9987 said:
Why would you do this? The OEM setup is rated amongst the best brakes on the market. I do not understand. I personally swapped out both my clutch and brake M/C for RCS units and it makes a world of difference. But to decrease the rotor size, unless going with a full ceramic... i do not understand??

Not trying to be a ...., just truly intrigued.

Actually changing the Brake MC for the RCS 19x unit is even crazier than changing the rotors unless you did all the rest of the stuff. .. You just mismatched your caliper to the master cylinder and removed any feel you had by doing the RCS modification.

Not saying the rotor modification is good, but the RCS modification by itself is a really really bad idea.

TransNone13 · Jul 12, 2013

anthem said:
Actually changing the Brake MC for the RCS 19x unit is even crazier than changing the rotors unless you did all the rest of the stuff. .. You just mismatched your caliper to the master cylinder and removed any feel you had by doing the RCS modification.

Not saying the rotor modification is good, but the RCS modification by itself is a really really bad idea.

Why is this?

ducducgoose9987 · Jul 12, 2013

I dunno man. I absolutely love my setup. The rcs gives me such incredible feel. Much more then the oem setup. I can feather the brake one finger now. And it's substantially smoother then the original.

Just my 2cents tho

roadracerx · Jul 12, 2013

Yea, changing the masters isn't the best idea. The ratios are quite different. I have a PS19 and billet radial masters in the garage unused because I didn't want to screw with it. Also, the ABS is quite seamless....no need to remove it. I use it on the race bike and if you have ever locked up a front end like I have then you would know it's something you should leave ON the bike. You paid $1,000 for nothing?

gatti man · Jul 12, 2013

I feather the brakes with one finger stock.

anthem · Jul 12, 2013

You love your setup because mentally you paid for an upgrade thinking it was an upgrade. I have tried it with an 19 mated to the m50 - its horrid. Its a rock hard setup with zilch for feel. A lot if people like hard brakes but not if you can't feel /modulate it and that's what happens.

It is a real /bad/ idea with the mismatched ratios.

MUNDMAN · Jul 12, 2013

I don't get it either but if you like it man, go ahead and lighter up and enjoy!

ducducgoose9987 · Jul 12, 2013

not quite sure what to say... i think my setup is just about as perfect as i can get. I love it.. way way more then oem

still dont get the rotor thing tho

anthem · Jul 12, 2013

ducducgoose9987 said:
not quite sure what to say... i think my setup is just about as perfect as i can get. I love it.. way way more then oem

still dont get the rotor thing tho

because everyone who has put an RCS "upgrade" on thinks its "perfect" because they spent the money for the upgrade. Brembo has published an ideal cross section and basically has said - its wrong and mismatched that tells a different story. . .

In terms of rotors - the T-drive rotors are a better compound than the stock rotors. Slightly higher coefficient of friction (like the HPK discs are better than stock as well) and when he says "smaller" - he's talking from 330 to 320mm - which is minimal and only involves removal of the caliper spacer to get the original caliper to fit. If you think there is a huge difference between 330 and 320 - you're sorely mistaken.

I always recommend if you want to ugprade your brakes on the panigale to go to the HH sintered or the Brembo Z04. After that, changing the caliper/MC combo is a very good upgrade and finally the disc.

However, in terms of you changing the MC but not the caliper and him changing the rotor disc - the overall improvement in braking is definitely with just the rotors being changed. But if you like it - go ahead and stick with it. Enough people know about this that its definitely not something most would want to undertake.

sirmalcome · Jul 13, 2013

not really looking to start a conflict between right and wrong gentlemen. I did not go into the details while posting my first pictures on the T-Drive conversion. However, if you look closely at the calipers, they are not the M50's. I have also at his time installed the RCS brake master, FGRT 211 complete ohlins forks which are a 1098/1198 item. For my own taste, woodcraft clip-ons and a completely different steering dampener set up. Those who truly understand the bike will know the why we sometimes are left with no choice when we start one project and it turns into several. In closing, I do not find the abs a terrible add on. I simply don't like it and when deciding between not owning a bike or making a few changes...well, I would rather own the bike. I ride several bikes at the track and the most important thing in my mind, would be the consistency in the equipment. If all the bikes do not have traction control, abs, quick shift and such, and yes, I have completely removed the DES suspension from my bike. The rear now has a DU930 Mark ll with a on the shock preload adjuster. I think you get my point.

anthem · Jul 13, 2013

Yes that looks to be a gp4-rr or rx. So that's mated properly to an RCS - which is a pretty decent upgrade. ....

Jariva · Jul 13, 2013

So your bike is an R with DES and ABS removed?

flobrandx · Jul 13, 2013

Jariva said:
So your bike is an R with DES and ABS removed?

Wouldn't it have been better to get a base and then modify it to this extent? I guess if its an R than the you would get the Ti internals and lightened flywheel for the serious track machine.

sirmalcome · Jul 14, 2013

You are right. The only reason I purchased the model I did was for the internals. After selling of the items I removed, price point is similar to an S model. Never liked the Termi's. They alone fetched 2,500.00 for an unopened box. I just kept the up map key for the Akro pipe.

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