Carbon Wheels for 1199S

Spilly1199 · May 7, 2012

Hey guys,

Thinking of spending the $3.5K AUD for a full Termi system on carbon wheels instead. Especially as I don't fancy being pulled over by an overzealous cop + the standard pipes are loud enough by all accounts.

The only ones I've seen are the BST 7 spoke wheels which aren't really my cup of tea. Anyone seen any other ones around?

I also like the gold Marschesini wheels on the 1098R, anyone know what they weigh & cost compared to the BST ones?

Many thanks

duck8 · May 7, 2012

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jjmontesanto · May 7, 2012

I am personally not a fan of these:

But they are an option.

They're on Bellisimoto's website (http://www.bellissimoto.com/Rotobox.html). They're from Rotobox (RBX).

Spilly1199 · May 7, 2012

Thanks guys. Nothing on the money yet - I wish BST would make swept spoke wheels - like their ones for the Desmo, they'd be perfect..

BUCCI · May 7, 2012

jjmontesanto said:
I am personally not a fan of these:

But they are an option.

They're on Bellisimoto's website (BellissiMoto - Rotobox Carbon Fiber Lightweight Wheels). They're from Rotobox (RBX).

4500$! Hard to justify these with the stock wheels being so nice on the s...

Steve B · May 7, 2012

Yikes; good sidewind gust or blast from a truck passing should be interesting with one of those on the front! Next...

jjmontesanto · May 7, 2012

Agreed. Those spokes are huge, and gusseted, which would only add to the 'sail' effect in a crosswind. Would totally ruin the aesthetics of the bike too. I, like spilly, would like to see a carbon fiber swept spoke design, that would be the best in my mind. I wouldn't get them ($$), but I'd love to see'em on someone else's duc.

superfly999 · May 7, 2012

dont do it. if youre racing maybe but seriously I hear they make the steering too quick and the feedback is weird. Last thing a street rider needs...

Tosh · May 7, 2012

superfly999 said:
dont do it. if youre racing maybe but seriously I hear they make the steering too quick and the feedback is weird. Last thing a street rider needs...

Well said. +1. But they sure look nice. Thats all. But why not if you can control your machine very well.

Tosh · May 7, 2012

This is the ones for 1199 Panigale.

Beanflicker · May 8, 2012

I own a quite trick R1 with BST's and other stuff too. It weighs 193Kg.

I also have a Pan S which is lighter still.

Having ridden both bikes back to back I would honestly say that the BST (or equivalent) wheels will make the front horrendously light.
The S wheels are more than light enough for the road.
If I did go down the route of carbon wheels I feel certain I would need to go for complete change of springs.

Not putting you off as I love pimped bikes, especially with BST's, but I'd spend time getting the suspension spot on first.

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littlejohn · May 8, 2012

Beanflicker said:
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Having ridden both bikes back to back I would honestly say that the BST (or equivalent) wheels will make the front horrendously light.
The S wheels are more than light enough for the road.
If I did go down the route of carbon wheels I feel certain I would need to go for complete change of springs.

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Curious as to why you would need to change the springs if you get lighter wheels?
Wheels are unsprung weight and as such should make no difference to the spring rate required..
Lighter wheels however will allow the suspension to react quicker to bumps and what not..

Beanflicker · May 8, 2012

Having been down the route before using MCT Suspension gurus, I went with their advice.
The lighter wheels allow a softer spring to be used as their inertia (push) is not as heavy on the spring. I also hasten to add I was running Carbon ceramic discs.

On the R1 I ran 100nm springs prior to the wheels.

After fitment, I could run 90nm front and rear.

I went with their advice and the bike was amazing.

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littlejohn · May 8, 2012

Beanflicker said:
Having been down the route before using MCT Suspension gurus, I went with their advice.
The lighter wheels allow a softer spring to be used as their inertia (push) is not as heavy on the spring. I also hasten to add I was running Carbon ceramic discs.

On the R1 I ran 100nm springs prior to the wheels.

After fitment, I could run 90nm front and rear.

I went with their advice and the bike was amazing.

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Fair enough.. but still sounds kinda odd, or more appropriately put.. difficult to get my head around it..
Going to a softer spring rate to compensate for reduced unsprung weight, which would mean that the spring rate would be too soft for all the sprung weight. Which is really the primary roll of the suspension system...

I would have thought changing the compression and rebound dampening would be the preferred method of controlling the change in inertia due to having reduced unsprung weight. - Which is really what the dampening circuits are for.. to control the monkey motion.

Anyhoo.. like I said.. just difficult to get my head around it..

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