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VR has won the Australian Moto GP at PI. I was not able to go to the race as I planned as I am on duty with the Army but was able to watch and then have a few beers to celebrate another fine victory. He was humble in victory. Such a great ride and a great race. Great to see Jack Miller win Moto 3 too. Everyone drinking in the officers mess now knows who VR is I can assure you.:)
 
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For luck this ain't a spoiler buddy ... Some just woke up and .... Well... Title edited
 
Watched it last night, obviously the front tires were an issue MM going down, great VR ride, fast and staying within the limits.
 
Poor Cal...


They said Ducati decided to not play around with the setup any more... Seems to almost have worked out... (With the 14.1 btw )
 
I guess with the Championship in hand the KID is going to win it or bin it at these last races, it was disappointing for me. It's almost like he couldn't see his board and he felt those Yamahas on his tail. But there is no one else I'de rather see win than Vallie, he ran his teammate down, out dueled him and dropped his .... To win his 250th GP start at his age, against this current competition is nothing short of legendary, whether your a fan or not.
 
centeroff said:
But there is no one else I'de rather see win than Vallie, he ran his teammate down, out dueled him and dropped his .... To win his 250th GP start at his age, against this current competition is nothing short of legendary, whether your a fan or not.
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It's almost as if you just said "Beetleguice" 3x in a row. I feel these words are going to summon a special someone who will be compelled to reply with a fiery rebuttal...
 
centeroff said:
I guess with the Championship in hand the KID is going to win it or bin it at these last races, it was disappointing for me. It's almost like he couldn't see his board and he felt those Yamahas on his tail. But there is no one else I'de rather see win than Vallie, he ran his teammate down, out dueled him and dropped his .... To win his 250th GP start at his age, against this current competition is nothing short of legendary, whether your a fan or not.
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Marc did slow down when he had the big lead and he thinks that is WHY he crashed. The temp dropped 9 degrees during the race and when Marc backed off his pace he couldn't keep the front tire warm and he lost it.
 
Eleven 99 said:
Marc did slow down when he had the big lead and he thinks that is WHY he crashed. The temp dropped 9 degrees during the race and when Marc backed off his pace he couldn't keep the front tire warm and he lost it.
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That does make sense...and depending on what compound he was using
 
flobrandx said:
That does make sense...and depending on what compound he was using
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Yeah, he was using the asymmetric front that almost everyone else who crashed was using. He said the Honda had no choice but to use that tire because it couldn't go full race distance on the soft.
 
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Marc did slow down when he had the big lead and he thinks that is WHY he crashed. The temp dropped 9 degrees during the race and when Marc backed off his pace he couldn't keep the front tire warm and he lost it.
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It does make sense, however Cructhlow & smith both loss the front as well under braking and they were not slowing down.:confused:
 
weltonrk said:
It does make sense, however Cructhlow & smith both loss the front as well under braking and they were not slowing down.:confused:
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True, but Crutchlow stated he was having trouble keeping heat in the front.

When asked how it felt to have crashed his first thoughts were with his team and the efforts that have been put in to get him back up to speed in recent weeks:

"I'm really disappointed for Ducati and my team because we worked hard all weekend and I rode well throughout the race. It was a very easy race for me, I just looked at my pitboard and was making sure to finish the race, but we had some problems with the front tyre over the weekend. I saw Marc crash, I saw Pol had crashed and then I crashed.

"We all were using the hard [asymmetric] front tyre and we've seen how many people have crashed this weekend. The temperature dropped nine degrees during the race and I never made it to the finish. I'm disappointed to crash on the last lap, it looks like I made a silly mistake but I had to keep pushing because I had no heat in the front tyre and if I didn't push I would have crashed anyway."

It was an incident-packed race for Crutchlow as he came back through the pack from a first corner incident with Andrea Iannone before battling through to run the majority of the race in fourth position:

"We worked well all weekend and I rode well during the race. Crazy Joe [Iannone] rammed me in the first corner and nearly broke my let, then he rammed Pedrosa and nearly broke his leg as well, so I was angry to lose seven places on the first lap.

"I managed to pass the other guys and got through to fourth and I was pleased with my pace and pleased to be riding away from the group behind. I just rode to my pitboard and to the gap in front and I was confident that if I had a better first lap that I could have gone with Valentino and Lorenzo."

While the decision to run the asymmetric tyre in the race left Crutchlow susceptible to losing temperature in cooling conditions the alternative of running the extra soft tyre, as used by Jorge Lorenzo, left him feeling that he wouldn't have been able to maintain tyre life throughout the race.

"I was happy with my pace and I really believed that one of the riders in front of me would come back to me because I thought that they'd have the front tyre problem with the 31 [extra soft], this was the reason that I didn't use the 31 in the race.

"In the test I did 17 laps with it and I destroyed the tyre, the same as Lorenzo and Valentino, and today Lorenzo came backwards like a stone because of this. That was why I choose the 35 [asymmetric], it was just to finish the race.

"I really didn't know what happened to me, at one point I thought that someone had set off a bomb and I'd been blown off the bike but you can look at how many riders crashed this weekend at the same point."
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Those asymmetric tyres accounted for 4 crashes on Friday as well.

Red faces at Bridgestone I would think.

Jack Miller rode the race of his life. The Hondas in the straight were smoking him every time. Moto 3 again eclipsed the other formats to produce the best race on the day.

Hats off to Phillip Island
 
I feel that VR beat everyone, but didn't win the race as much as MM lost the race. I'm glad Bridgestone is gone at the end of this year.

Jack Miller really showed his talent. To be at such disadvantages, and win....he may not win the title in moto 3 this year, but was the best rider in it!
 
Thamer said:
I feel that VR beat everyone, but didn't win the race as much as MM lost the race. I'm glad Bridgestone is gone at the end of this year.

Jack Miller really showed his talent. To be at such disadvantages, and win....he may not win the title in moto 3 this year, but was the best rider in it!
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As a life long racer that is too tough to take, you have to finish to finish first. How many times have we seen someone get out to a big lead, run their tyre's off get caught and beat at the end, they got beat. Managing your tyre's to the end is a huge part of racing, bikes and cars. No the "Old Man" was the best there was that day at PI and he beat everyone there fair and square, even my favorite rider, the Kid.
 
Conrats to VR, good race, MM needs some more experience underneath his belt. This is the second race he lost big time due to his immaturity. The first one was in the rain when he decided not to switch bikes and crashed and this race he was pushing those tire too much when he had a large enough lead and crashed. MM and Cal was pushing their tires way too hard for the final laps with almost no tire left. The two veterens VR and Jlo knows the limits.
 
^ Marquez and Cal were having difficulty keeping heat in the tire. In Marquez' case, him backing off is probably what did him in, because he was doing fine when pushing. Actually, had JLo and Rossi not been dicing, maybe the outcome would be different since Marquez would have been forced to keep riding hard. Instead, he had a fairly big gap and once he let off, so did the tires.

Not taking anything away from those who finished the race, because you gotta do that first and foremost. Congrats to Rossi for knowing from the start to concentrate on the soft rubber instead of the asymmetricals and running a great race from 8th. JLo did well to stay on and was rewarded when others went down. I'm not a big fan of Smith, but credit to him as well. The Island was a race of attrition and he brought it home.
 

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