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Sounds like your dealer doesn't know what he's talking about. It's not available for the R.
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TJ had talked about this in the Anniversario thread. It had to do with the different engine size and different computers.
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Last week I took the R out at Cartegena for the first time this year since I've been racing the Yamaha R6 for the last four or five months. For some reason the IMU and speed sensors were both knocked out so all the electronics turned themselves off. When I first got the bike last year and fitted the track fairings I had something similar and ended up high siding since the bike is so savage it's very difficult to stay smooth without just the very low race settings I normally use. This time I've had a chance to work out the suspension a bit more and it's amazing the difference the setup makes on the R. I guess the light weight of the bike makes it very sensitive. My 1199S is perfectly happy with no electronics but the R is an animal at times. It was still pretty angry but just by extending the rear shock a bit and tightening up the compression I went from not being able to push at all without risking a crash to having a really good last day.
The points I took from it is that firstly in relation to this thread it only takes a little intervention to make a big difference in rideability hence why I think any software update could be useful, and secondly it's interesting as a result of this how much the electronics can 'fix' or mask a less than optimal setup. I probably wouldnt have noticed the difference if the electronics were working even though I only have them set very low. It's worth pointing out that anyone who is going reasonably quick is going to be spinning up the rear even if they are not very aware of it, especially if you are getting on the power to finish a corner which is often needed on the Panigale to get it to turn as sharp as other bikes.
The points I took from it is that firstly in relation to this thread it only takes a little intervention to make a big difference in rideability hence why I think any software update could be useful, and secondly it's interesting as a result of this how much the electronics can 'fix' or mask a less than optimal setup. I probably wouldnt have noticed the difference if the electronics were working even though I only have them set very low. It's worth pointing out that anyone who is going reasonably quick is going to be spinning up the rear even if they are not very aware of it, especially if you are getting on the power to finish a corner which is often needed on the Panigale to get it to turn as sharp as other bikes.
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Interesting experience. One thing that Josh Hayes mentioned to our class while I was taking YCRS was that his philosophy since electronics have come to the forefront was to ride the bike with everything turned off. Finding the best settings they possibly can with the chassis and suspension. After they had done that, they start introducing electronics a little bit at a time. This way the electronics are not masking deficiencies in the bike, and unlocking performance they may have been hidden had they done it by starting with electronics first and then dialing them down.
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It is another way to make money....a sw upgrade create the idea that the motorcycle is up to date as the last my, and ducati ' owners in general tend to invest on aftermarket accessories, add the word EVO and the magic is done.
All sw based performances can be improved over the time, but I would focus on our performances as drivers or pilots......
BTW from analysts website:
The analysts forecast global motorcycle oxygen sensor market to grow at a CAGR of 14.01% during the period 2017-2021. Progressive growth of technology has driven OEMs to equip two-wheelers with high-performance engines with sophisticated controls, sensors, and electronic control units (ECUs) for optimizing performance.
Modern two-wheelers are equipped with sensors that relay information regarding the output to the ECU. The ECU acts like the brain of the system and optimizes performance accordingly.
And
The analysts forecast the global motorcycle slip-on exhaust system market to grow at a CAGR of 17.77% during the period 2017-2021.
All sw based performances can be improved over the time, but I would focus on our performances as drivers or pilots......
BTW from analysts website:
The analysts forecast global motorcycle oxygen sensor market to grow at a CAGR of 14.01% during the period 2017-2021. Progressive growth of technology has driven OEMs to equip two-wheelers with high-performance engines with sophisticated controls, sensors, and electronic control units (ECUs) for optimizing performance.
Modern two-wheelers are equipped with sensors that relay information regarding the output to the ECU. The ECU acts like the brain of the system and optimizes performance accordingly.
And
The analysts forecast the global motorcycle slip-on exhaust system market to grow at a CAGR of 17.77% during the period 2017-2021.
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You won't notice anything on the street. It is a track upgrade.
Below part of software description:
" It interfaces with the Bosch Inertial Measurement Unit (IMU) and measures the lean angle of the motorcycle at any time, using it to assess more accurately the action required and ensuring the perfect slipping of the rear tyre (according to the DTC EVO level enabled). Furthermore, the DTC EVO activates throttle body valves, in addition to the management of the ignition and injection advance. In all situations in which the quick action of the DTC EVO is not required, the use of throttle body valves allows keeping the best combustion parameters, resulting in a response of the engine and a smoother action.
I belive it has to have some influence on street riding...
Yes,
Without the EVO it only measures slip by the rear wheel compared to the front. EVO uses the IMU to help determine the amount of slip.
As I said in another post, if you are spinning up the rear on the street, you have either crashed or you a bad mutha fucka!
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Will the update effect tuneboy or visa versa
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I got the upgrade 2 days ago, did a trackday yesterday.
For street riding, you can feel a slight difference. On the track, it's a new bike!
I mostly used DTC level 2 to test the slide control. All I can say is it's really fun and it works, but I don't have the skill set to properly exploit it for lap times. Set DTC 3 for the last stint, and compared to the standard DTC it pulls HARD out of the corners. I can now consistently accelerate the bike to borderline headshake out of every corner (wrong fork springs wound too hard, too little sag).
It does not interfere with Tuneboy. Recommended upgrade!
For street riding, you can feel a slight difference. On the track, it's a new bike!
I mostly used DTC level 2 to test the slide control. All I can say is it's really fun and it works, but I don't have the skill set to properly exploit it for lap times. Set DTC 3 for the last stint, and compared to the standard DTC it pulls HARD out of the corners. I can now consistently accelerate the bike to borderline headshake out of every corner (wrong fork springs wound too hard, too little sag).
It does not interfere with Tuneboy. Recommended upgrade!
thanks for the feeback TurboLag, looks like a trip to the dealer is on the cards then.
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