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dallarosajm

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Selling a like new V4 S faring set. Came off the bike with 15 miles on the bike. Pay way less than retail. If you have questions please feel free to ask. Shipping is not included in the price, I am asking $2200 obo for the entire set.
 
I got the fairings you shipped and I'm disappointed. You told me the fairings were in new condition. They are not in new condition. Besides the few marks and imperfections in the paint, the front fairing also has JB weld holding the main front mounting bracket on for the front fairing, the right side fairing has a broken tab, the windscreen is scratched up and the front fairing stay is missing the trim surround that I specifically asked about. It’s possible you didn’t see the paint imperfections, or maybe the scratched windscreen, and maybe the tab on the fairing broke in shipment(because you stuffed all the fairings into a box far too small for the parts with no padding besides a few pieces of paper inside, but you definitely knew that the front fairing was previously damaged and cheaply repaired, so not “new” as you stated, but yet you still told me it was and sold it to me as “new”...

Pictures for reference

PM stating your parts are as “new”
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You are now attempting to claim that a JB welded front fairing came from the Ducati factory on your new V4S? But for some reason you didn’t feel the need to mention it to the person you sold it to?

JB welded front fairing
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Broken Tab IMG_1523.HEIC

15” x 15” x 38” box all fairings were squeezed into. (NOTE* picture is for size reference of a separate side fairing in front of the box all fairings were shipped in)
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Now you are trying to tell me too bad??







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SpeedOfSound said:
I got the fairings you shipped and I'm disappointed. You told me the fairings were in new condition. They are not in new condition. Besides the few marks and imperfections in the paint, the front fairing also has JB weld holding the main front mounting bracket on for the front fairing, the right side fairing has a broken tab, the windscreen is scratched up and the front fairing stay is missing the trim surround that I specifically asked about. It’s possible you didn’t see the paint imperfections, or maybe the scratched windscreen, and maybe the tab on the fairing broke in shipment(because you stuffed all the fairings into a box far too small for the parts with no padding besides a few pieces of paper inside, but you definitely knew that the front fairing was previously damaged and cheaply repaired, so not “new” as you stated, but yet you still told me it was and sold it to me as “new”...
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Hope you purchased through PayPal with the 'Goods & Services' option. I NEVER purchase items from forums without this service option. I've already had 2 situations where my packages were lost in transit. And I had a damaged part come. PayPal will protect buyer as long as you have evidence to prove there were damages prior to receiving it.
 
arexniba said:
Hope you purchased through PayPal with the 'Goods & Services' option. I NEVER purchase items from forums without this service option. I've already had 2 situations where my packages were lost in transit. And I had a damaged part come. PayPal will protect buyer as long as you have evidence to prove there were damages prior to receiving it.
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Luckily I did send it through PayPal with the “goods and service” option although he was trying to persuade me to send it “friends and family” with no protection. I should have known something was strange when he told me he would ship by the end of the week if I made immediate payment(which I did), then after confirming payment he went silent til the following week when he said he had to order a “custom box” for the fairings and would be able to ship for a few days...

Here’s a picture of the “custom” 15”x15”x38” box he claims he ordered for the fairings that he burrito’d inside. (NOTE* picture is for size reference of a separate side fairing in front of the box all fairings were shipped in)

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This guy is lying I do not own V4 parts as he is claiming I sold him. I own a V4S and the fairings that were sent were for a V4S (please see link on the parts he verified he was receiving.. As far as the JB weld on the front nose, I was not aware of that as the part was already like that when received from Ducati OKC. He also claims that there was a broken tab, When everything shipped out it was in 100% working order. Just to let people know the picture he is posting is for V4 fairing, he was involved in a motorcycle accident, so the part he is posting is the part that he wrecked. Please see all messages that were sent between him and I. also click on the link that shows pictures of parts shipped in which he verified in the messages. This guy is trying to get free parts from me I even through in the windscreen for no charge.

Also note to the buyer: I will be filing fraud report with your local police department.

Copy of title showing I own A V4S and no a V4 as the buyer is claiming
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Dang! I saw your original picture showing the fairings as "V4 S", and other guys with the box in background didn't have an "S" :oops:
 
arexniba said:
Dang! I saw your original picture showing the fairings as "V4 S", and other guys with the box in background didn't have an "S" :oops:
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To clarify the picture of the broken side fairing (a separate fairing) with the box in the background is there for a size reference as the side fairings along with the other fairings were folded and shoved into this 15”x15”x38” box. The picture was taken before the box was opened*.

All of the other pictures posted are of the fairings I received.
 
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Your misleading people to think you got that cracked fairing.. who cares about a box as long as the parts are ok.. be very clear about what your posting as you are damaging people's reputation..
 
I have nothing to hide either. Your post proves you are a liar. I am not lying about anything. You are just trying to confuse the argument. Everything I posted was accurate. The side fairing pictured with box behind it is only to reference how the side fairings don’t fit in your “custom” box without them being folded almost in half! All the other pictures are of what you sent me. There is no deception. I have already filed with PayPal. I am not trying to get anything free from you. I don’t want to deal with a dishonest seller. I want a return shipping label and my money back as I have already told you.

dallarosajm said:
This guy is lying I do not own V4 parts as he is claiming I sold him. I own a V4S and the fairings that were sent were for a V4S (please see link on the parts he verified he was receiving.. As far as the JB weld on the front nose, I was not aware of that as the part was already like that when received from Ducati OKC. He also claims that there was a broken tab, When everything shipped out it was in 100% working order. Just to let people know the picture he is posting is for V4 fairing, he was involved in a motorcycle accident, so the part he is posting is the part that he wrecked. Please see all messages that were sent between him and I. also click on the link that shows pictures of parts shipped in which he verified in the messages. This guy is trying to get free parts from me I even through in the windscreen for no charge.
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Duke72 said:
Your misleading people to think you got that cracked fairing.. who cares about a box as long as the parts are ok.. be very clear about what your posting as you are damaging people's reputation..
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Who said the fairings were ok? Did you read the post? I am not trying to misleading anyone. I want to be clear that the box* picture was for size reference only! The fact that the box is far too small shows why the fairing likely got a broken tab in shipment. But the bigger issue is that I was shipped fairings that I bought “as new”, but received used and poorly repaired (by JB weld) fairings.
 
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For one, I wouldn't deal with any of you guys. :rolleyes:

Buyer
You ask for so much! If I was the seller I would've told you "Forget it! If you found good prices on eBay, then buy your stuff there." When a potential buyer starts asking me for more pictures or asks me to continue giving explanations, that's an immediate red flag for me. I've been selling parts online since Craigslist started (yes, I'm 'old' and I live in SF Bay Area) and I know people to watch out for. You also mentioned in a response to my post that the seller was "persuading" you to get the "Friends & Family" service. Yet, after reading those screen shots, seller clearly gave you that as an option to not have to eat the additional 4% fees that Paypal charges the seller.

Seller
As transparent as you were posting screenshots of your convo, it clearly shows that everything the buyer had asked for (pics and assurances) your responses were 1 liners. You clearly told buyer that if he sent payment to you that evening on 4/29 (Wednesday), that you would send the package out by end of week--"I can get it shipped out this week as long as it paid by this evening." And in your screenshot, you also confirmed on the same day that you had received payment. You offered no updates to buyer that you were looking for a box until he contacted you again on 5/4 (5 days later). Then, on 5/6 you stated that you would ship the package out next day on 5/7--that's already over a week from the date payment was sent. So, you also breached your verbal agreement.

If I was in either shoes in this transaction, I would have walked away! Buyer clearly had a lot of trust issues and doubts. And the seller clearly was annoyed and stopped responding after payment was received. I would have cancelled payment to seller the moment that he said he was looking for another box. That's 1 of the advantage of using the 'Goods & Services' option.

My question to buyer is, why are you "referencing" pictures of your damaged fairings? The entire point to make other members aware here is to be accurate. You want to display all the issues with the parts you PURCHASED, not the parts that YOU OWN.

Good luck to you both!
 
You have also already confirmed the issues that I brought up. You acknowledged the JB welded front fairing, the swirl marks in the paint and that the side fairing tab must have been broken in shipping, probably because you knew how you folded the fairings in half to shove into the box with no padding, other than plastic wrap.

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arexniba said:
For one, I wouldn't deal with any of you guys. :rolleyes:

Buyer
You ask for so much! If I was the seller I would've told you "Forget it! If you found good prices on eBay, then buy your stuff there." When a potential buyer starts asking me for more pictures or asks me to continue giving explanations, that's an immediate red flag for me. I've been selling parts online since Craigslist started (yes, I'm 'old' and I live in SF Bay Area) and I know people to watch out for. You also mentioned in a response to my post that the seller was "persuading" you to get the "Friends & Family" service. Yet, after reading those screen shots, seller clearly gave you that as an option to not have to eat the additional 4% fees that Paypal charges the seller.

Seller
As transparent as you were posting screenshots of your convo, it clearly shows that everything the buyer had asked for (pics and assurances) your responses were 1 liners. You clearly told buyer that if he sent payment to you that evening on 4/29 (Wednesday), that you would send the package out by end of week--"I can get it shipped out this week as long as it paid by this evening." And in your screenshot, you also confirmed on the same day that you had received payment. You offered no updates to buyer that you were looking for a box until he contacted you again on 5/4 (5 days later). Then, on 5/6 you stated that you would ship the package out next day on 5/7--that's already over a week from the date payment was sent. So, you also breached your verbal agreement.

If I was in either shoes in this transaction, I would have walked away! Buyer clearly had a lot of trust issues and doubts. And the seller clearly was annoyed and stopped responding after payment was received. I would have cancelled payment to seller the moment that he said he was looking for another box. That's 1 of the advantage of using the 'Goods & Services' option.

My question to buyer is, why are you "referencing" pictures of your damaged fairings? The entire point to make other members aware here is to be accurate. You want to display all the issues with the parts you PURCHASED, not the parts that YOU OWN.

Good luck to you both!
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All the pictures I posted were of the fairings he sent me. The only picture that is not his fairing is the one with the box in it, which is my broken V4 fairing in front of the box he shipped me before it was opened*. This was a reference shot to show the size of the fairings squeezed into the box he used.
 
SpeedOfSound said:
All the pictures I posted were of the fairings he sent me. The only picture that is not his fairing is the one with the box in it, which is my broken V4 fairing in front of the box he shipped me before it was opened*. This was a reference shot to show the size of the fairings squeezed into the box he used.
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If true, it would've been to your benefit to just post the picture of the box he sent you. In the screenshots he said he was looking for a 50" box. So, it would've been beneficial to just take a picture of the box with tape measurements showing that it wasn't clearly a 50" box.
You also stated there were a lot of issues with the paint (i.e. swirl marks and scratches), but us members are not seeing any of that. We only saw a fairing with JB weld and a broken tab. So what you're detailing as huge issues are not being depicted in the pictures you've sent.

In any case, it's pretty obvious that you both are trying to be persuasive to the other members because a lot of your posts have been edited in the past few hours lol.
 
I thought I noted that picture clearly, but I clearly should have done a better job so I will accept that. I was going to delete that one picture entirely, but didn’t want to confuse the situation more.

arexniba said:
For one, I wouldn't deal with any of you guys. :rolleyes:

Buyer
You ask for so much! If I was the seller I would've told you "Forget it! If you found good prices on eBay, then buy your stuff there." When a potential buyer starts asking me for more pictures or asks me to continue giving explanations, that's an immediate red flag for me. I've been selling parts online since Craigslist started (yes, I'm 'old' and I live in SF Bay Area) and I know people to watch out for. You also mentioned in a response to my post that the seller was "persuading" you to get the "Friends & Family" service. Yet, after reading those screen shots, seller clearly gave you that as an option to not have to eat the additional 4% fees that Paypal charges the seller.

Seller
As transparent as you were posting screenshots of your convo, it clearly shows that everything the buyer had asked for (pics and assurances) your responses were 1 liners. You clearly told buyer that if he sent payment to you that evening on 4/29 (Wednesday), that you would send the package out by end of week--"I can get it shipped out this week as long as it paid by this evening." And in your screenshot, you also confirmed on the same day that you had received payment. You offered no updates to buyer that you were looking for a box until he contacted you again on 5/4 (5 days later). Then, on 5/6 you stated that you would ship the package out next day on 5/7--that's already over a week from the date payment was sent. So, you also breached your verbal agreement.

If I was in either shoes in this transaction, I would have walked away! Buyer clearly had a lot of trust issues and doubts. And the seller clearly was annoyed and stopped responding after payment was received. I would have cancelled payment to seller the moment that he said he was looking for another box. That's 1 of the advantage of using the 'Goods & Services' option.

My question to buyer is, why are you "referencing" pictures of your damaged fairings? The entire point to make other members aware here is to be accurate. You want to display all the issues with the parts you PURCHASED, not the parts that YOU OWN.

Good luck to you both!
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In hind sight I probably should have done that. I was only including the fairing to show how much larger it is than the box visually. That was my mistake. The swirl marks in the paint were a disappointment, but not the main issues for me as I can remedy that with work. I can’t unbreak a tab or “un-Jbweld” and “un-break” a fairing. I only edited my post for clarification as I am not trying to mislead anyone.

arexniba said:
If true, it would've been to your benefit to just post the picture of the box he sent you. In the screenshots he said he was looking for a 50" box. So, it would've been beneficial to just take a picture of the box with tape measurements showing that it wasn't clearly a 50" box.
You also stated there were a lot of issues with the paint (i.e. swirl marks and scratches), but us members are not seeing any of that. We only saw a fairing with JB weld and a broken tab. So what you're detailing as huge issues are not being depicted in the pictures you've sent.

In any case, it's pretty obvious that you both are trying to be persuasive to the other members because a lot of your posts have been edited in the past few hours lol.
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SpeedOfSound said:
You have also already confirmed the issues that I brought up. You acknowledged the JB welded front fairing, the swirl marks in the paint and that the side fairing tab must have been broken in shipping, probably because you knew how you folded the fairings in half to shove into the box with no padding, other than plastic wrap.

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To your point, this is the only evidence you will need to present to PayPal because it did seem like these issues were pretty obvious for the seller to have noticed. If there was no JB weld, seller should have immediately said "That's not true! There was no welding on the parts." But from the screenshots, seller does say "I wasn't aware..."
Lol for me, when I'm buying used parts from a stranger online I make sure I do my due diligence and do a little "Google PI" on the person.

Here's an idea. Between you 2, seller why not accept to see more pictures of all the damaged parts from the buyer. If you see things that are clearly damaged either from your packaging or may not have been aware of, then accept a return. ESPECIALLY if the box you sent the buyer to wasn't a 50" box like you stated. Buyer, if seller accepts damages, then pay for the return shipping yourself. This way you'll only take a little hit on shipping charges, but you won't lose all of your money. And buyer will get parts back, maybe have them fixed, then can re-sell in better condition(s).

I'm starting to have the feeling that seller should be okay with this. Most people that are parting out the bikes due to some type of accident have more than likely gotten a check from their insurance already. Purchased the bike back for a small fraction of the cost, and are now selling the additional parts for profit. A v4 S is a newer machine, and I'm sure the insurance gave back a sweet offer. I could be wrong here, but I don't have the time to research why the seller is putting up his OEM parts for sale.
 
Here are the pictures of the box you suggested.

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arexniba said:
If true, it would've been to your benefit to just post the picture of the box he sent you. In the screenshots he said he was looking for a 50" box. So, it would've been beneficial to just take a picture of the box with tape measurements showing that it wasn't clearly a 50" box.
You also stated there were a lot of issues with the paint (i.e. swirl marks and scratches), but us members are not seeing any of that. We only saw a fairing with JB weld and a broken tab. So what you're detailing as huge issues are not being depicted in the pictures you've sent.

In any case, it's pretty obvious that you both are trying to be persuasive to the other members because a lot of your posts have been edited in the past few hours lol.
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