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ok so ive been on the phone with dunlop over the last 2 months about a tire for the panigale. here is what i have learned and what is in the works.

dunlop has never had nor have they tested any tire for the 1199. They now have a pani to test their new Q3 tire on. This will be done on aug 26. I asked dunlop what is in the works for a 200/55 and as of now they dont know. there will be 3 possible outcomes after the test either:
1 produce a 200/55 tire (1199 hp4 and ape) all use these stock now
2 recommend a tire they already produce with tc setting recommendations.
3 do nothing.

This is what i was told. no assumptions straight from the horses mouth. i dont know anything else.

hope this helps
 
Keep in mind, the ape only gets 200s on the factory rsv4, low production, as is hp4. So it may just not be cost effective yet. That said, I've no doubt 200s will be the new "it" tire in a year or so and will be on all the japanese liter bikes, just like when the 190 came out on the 9x6.

Does it seem absurd to anyone else for them NOT to produce a tire size that is on the 1199, HP4, and RSV4??? And the tire size that, at least currently, seems to be the "way of the future"...

Seems like they are really hurting themselves by not making it in that size
 
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transdesigner said:
Does it seem absurd to anyone else for them NOT to produce a tire size that is on the 1199, HP4, and RSV4??? And the tire size that, at least currently, seems to be the "way of the future"...

Seems like they are really hurting themselves by not making it in that size
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I agree... I think the market for this tyre is huge....
 
transdesigner said:
Does it seem absurd to anyone else for them NOT to produce a tire size that is on the 1199, HP4, and RSV4??? And the tire size that, at least currently, seems to be the "way of the future"...

Seems like they are really hurting themselves by not making it in that size
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makes no sense to me. i mean they produce a 200/50 and a 190/55. now i know the s1000rr uses the 190/55 for their base models. all the other exotics use a 200/55. i dont know anyone who uses a 200/50
 
zvez said:
Charlie M has been running Q3 on the rear of his pani for some months now, said he was happy with it. It's the 190 spec.
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i know it will work but call me vain i hate how they look. my friend has an 1198s and stock is 190/55. looks so much smaller. i dont want to have to play with tc. i cant believe there isnt more 200/55 options.
 
mark419ny said:
i know it will work but call me vain i hate how they look. my friend has an 1198s and stock is 190/55. looks so much smaller. i dont want to have to play with tc. i cant believe there isnt more 200/55 options.
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Yes, three bikes available with the tire seems to be enough to justify a market to me if you are serious about being in the SS tire market. And as mentioned above, it's only a matter of time when more bikes come with them.
 
I put a 190/55-17 Q3 on my bike and it worked just fine. So for that reason I think they might do nothing unless the 200 makes a huge difference which I doubt. Honestly I tried both sizes street and track and I couldn't feel any difference what so ever.
 
I ran a q2 yesterday at the track and almost lost the front end. My lap times were getting faster and faster. Racers are running 59-1:01 and I was at a 1:07. Tires are great until you really start to push it. Mine were getting real greasy and the TC at lvl 1 was lit up like a Xmas tree all nite lol.

Going back to the pirellis for sure. Or a power one.

Love them on the street, but scary on the track.
 
LDucati 1199S said:
I put a 190/55-17 Q3 on my bike and it worked just fine. So for that reason I think they might do nothing unless the 200 makes a huge difference which I doubt. Honestly I tried both sizes street and track and I couldn't feel any difference what so ever.
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I believe you that the difference going to a 190 is not going to be felt by most people. But that does not change the fact that most people are not going to want to go down a size as along as they can get the OEM tire. Right, wrong or indifferent, I have a great sense of security running the OEM Pirelli. And price is not a factor or I would not have bought a Ducati to begin with.

I'm not knocking people like you who went the 190 btw. Just stating my opinion that most people will not want to do it.
 
Whoopazz said:
I ran a q2 yesterday at the track and almost lost the front end. My lap times were getting faster and faster. Racers are running 59-1:01 and I was at a 1:07. Tires are great until you really start to push it. Mine were getting real greasy and the TC at lvl 1 was lit up like a Xmas tree all nite lol.

Going back to the pirellis for sure. Or a power one.

Love them on the street, but scary on the track.
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Q2 and Q3 are different tyres... So I am not sure why you raise this point??? Ever ridden a Supercorsa in the wet???
 
Have run a Q3 rear (190/55) for about 1200 miles now. Works great. Much better feel than the Pirelli.
Ordered a Q3 front today (actually a set so I could get the rebate Dunlop is offering) and will have that on by this coming weekend. Once it's on, doubt I'll look at anything else.

Firm believer in running as small a size as you can get away with. And 190 is just fine. Phat tires may look cool. But I'd rather have better turn in.

And as far as TC is concerned, I'm running in Sport(Lo) mode as default setting and never a complaint from the TC when I'm pushing things in the twisties.

Q3 works beautifully on the Pani.
 
do keep in mind the ducati spec rain tire for the pani is a 190.

jjsC6 said:
I believe you that the difference going to a 190 is not going to be felt by most people. But that does not change the fact that most people are not going to want to go down a size as along as they can get the OEM tire. Right, wrong or indifferent, I have a great sense of security running the OEM Pirelli. And price is not a factor or I would not have bought a Ducati to begin with.

I'm not knocking people like you who went the 190 btw. Just stating my opinion that most people will not want to do it.
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Mark, I look forward to what comes of this research. I love the V2s but damn I wish the rest of the tire manufactures would get off there ..... and make a 200/55. Or probably more of the truth, maybe sooner than later Pirelli will release its copywrite on the 200/55.
 
gman74 said:
Mark, I look forward to what comes of this research. I love the V2s but damn I wish the rest of the tire manufactures would get off there ..... and make a 200/55. Or probably more of the truth, maybe sooner than later Pirelli will release its copywrite on the 200/55.
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The Power CUPs last just as long and are in the same price range.
 
Stw said:
Q2 and Q3 are different tyres... So I am not sure why you raise this point??? Ever ridden a Supercorsa in the wet???
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My bad for discussing the wrong tire. Seems like a general q3 thread. Seeing as the q2s were so close, I can't see them being better than a super corsa on the track is all I'm saying. Any hyper sport tyre will not perform as well as a more track oriented tire. But I guess that's not what we're discussing here so avoid my feedback.
 
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