Full Superbike Electronics Available

Just got word that we now have access to a full Superbike electronics package available with all of the Pro-level Magnetti-Marelli electronics including: Race dash, programmable traction control (for any tires), wheelie control, launch control, engine braking control, quick-shifter, power downshifter (clutchless downshifts), suspension potentiometers, brake pressure sensor, full 10hz GPS lap timer/data logger with Pro analysis software, handlebar switches for turning functions on/off, full closed-loop individual cylinder fuel mapping with wide-band lambda sensors (comes with race-derived mapping for Panigale with full race exhaust). This is the exact system that some of the BSB and other national superbike class teams are running. Yes, you would need to be a professional racer racing for a national Superbike champoinship to justify installing this on your bike............. however, I still want it! Compared to the World Superstock kit that Ducati Corse offers for $40k, this kit is a relative bargain for $18k. Anyone besides me crazy enough to want this on their track bike?!?!

whoa!

Phil said:

whoa!

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Indeed!

Sure if I won a lotto.

Hmm, it will be a great conversation piece while at Starbucks. I'm in.

It's all relative, I once had an SV650 race bike that I probably had at least $25k invested in, now THAT was a poor investment! These seems like a much smarter use of funds....... trying to justify it to myself!

I will say, if you want it then get it.

You live only once and you should enjoy yourself with the hard money that you earn.

Lord knows how many time I purchased that I didnt need.

I'm sorry but this is beyond retarded.

Unless you actually pay for your life via race winnings, this is absolutely pointless.

FrostyFire said:

I'm sorry but this is beyond retarded.

Unless you actually pay for your life via race winnings, this is absolutely pointless.

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So would anything beyond say a Vespa as a form of 2 wheel transportation.

But seriously - jerel has more in his calipers, brakes, rotors (real performance upgrades) than most have I'm their entire bike.....

I could buy an S1000rr for that.... and I would...

It is a relative bargain in that sense of the word - because the data acq kit is 4k (list) and the mm ecu is easily around 7-8k. So that's 12k before the dash (same dash with 3 switches)" and all the other supposed goodies ....

But this is all relative obviously.

Ironically I want some of that but only need 1/2. I only need the front brake sensor and data acq wiring harness (using third party penny Giles linear potentiometers). So any brake sensors and linear pot will work - just want the wiring harness. The mm ecu gives you a lot of tuning potential but the mistu ecu has already been "tuned" by the rexxer (and I think microtech and a few others). Dash switched don't really need me.

Now, if they had that kit that had performance upgrades like manifold, the upgraded online front, rear and brembo kit - at a reasonable price now we're talking .

anthem said:

It is a relative bargain in that sense of the word - because the data acq kit is 4k (list) and the mm ecu is easily around 7-8k. So that's 12k before the dash (same dash with 3 switches)" and all the other supposed goodies ....

But this is all relative obviously.

Ironically I want some of that but only need 1/2. I only need the front brake sensor and data acq wiring harness (using third party penny Giles linear potentiometers). So any brake sensors and linear pot will work - just want the wiring harness. The mm ecu gives you a lot of tuning potential but the mistu ecu has already been "tuned" by the rexxer (and I think microtech and a few others). Dash switched don't really need me.

Now, if they had that kit that had performance upgrades like manifold, the upgraded online front, rear and brembo kit - at a reasonable price now we're talking .

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+1.

While I am unsure that I will replace the dash, I can certainly understand the desire to

jarelj said:

Just got word that we now have access to a full Superbike electronics package available with all of the Pro-level Magnetti-Marelli electronics including: Race dash, programmable traction control (for any tires), wheelie control, launch control, engine braking control, quick-shifter, power downshifter (clutchless downshifts), suspension potentiometers, brake pressure sensor, full 10hz GPS lap timer/data logger with Pro analysis software, handlebar switches for turning functions on/off, full closed-loop individual cylinder fuel mapping with wide-band lambda sensors (comes with race-derived mapping for Panigale with full race exhaust). This is the exact system that some of the BSB and other national superbike class teams are running. Yes, you would need to be a professional racer racing for a national Superbike champoinship to justify installing this on your bike............. however, I still want it! Compared to the World Superstock kit that Ducati Corse offers for $40k, this kit is a relative bargain for $18k. Anyone besides me crazy enough to want this on their track bike?!?!

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Hear ya, Jarel. I'd get a Dodge Journey instead of your typical X5 and have a blast with these bike mods

anthem said:

So would anything beyond say a Vespa as a form of 2 wheel transportation.

But seriously - jerel has more in his calipers, brakes, rotors (real performance upgrades) than most have I'm their entire bike.....

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I get what you're saying, but still the costs don't add up.

Depends if you bought your Duc to look at in your living room or to actually RIDE it. I've never done the former with my bikes and never intend to.

I'd rather beat the .... out of my Panigale at the track, and if it tumbles into a thousand pieces, I can replace it with another one the next day for that kind of money.

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I get what you're saying, but still the costs don't add up.

Depends if you bought your Duc to look at in your living room or to actually RIDE it. I've never done the former with my bikes and never intend to.

I'd rather beat the .... out of my Panigale at the track, and if it tumbles into a thousand pieces, I can replace it with another one the next day for that kind of money.

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ok - i get what you're saying and thats fine. But you also have to understand - what jerel's listing in his kit - almost none of that is visual. Nothing there will really go "ooh ahh" to anyone. And even very few panigale owners will actually be able to tell. The ECU, programming control/fuel mapping etc - completely undetectable even if you were looking for it. handlebar switches - ok, but most would actually find those uglier than stock, wide lambda sensors essentially undetectable from stock on the exhaust, brake pressure sensors - possible if you could find them, suspension pots - ok probably the most visible with the linear bar along the front suspension being the most noticeable but most have no idea what it is, dda-kit and associated software - undetectable. .

So as you see, almost none of this is for bling. It's for serious track day rider to get more out of the bike (and data acquisition to know how to get better).. . So someone getting this isn't getting it for any bling factor to look at.

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ok - i get what you're saying and thats fine. But you also have to understand - what jerel's listing in his kit - almost none of that is visual. Nothing there will really go "ooh ahh" to anyone. And even very few panigale owners will actually be able to tell. The ECU, programming control/fuel mapping etc - completely undetectable even if you were looking for it. handlebar switches - ok, but most would actually find those uglier than stock, wide lambda sensors essentially undetectable from stock on the exhaust, brake pressure sensors - possible if you could find them, suspension pots - ok probably the most visible with the linear bar along the front suspension being the most noticeable but most have no idea what it is, dda-kit and associated software - undetectable. .

So as you see, almost none of this is for bling. It's for serious track day rider to get more out of the bike (and data acquisition to know how to get better).. . So someone getting this isn't getting it for any bling factor to look at.

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If they aren't using it in competition, for what then, bragging rights at the track when you shave 1 second off your lap time?

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If they aren't using it in competition, for what then, bragging rights at the track when you shave 1 second off your lap time?

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they /are/ using it in competition - and even more so during track testing, training, qualifying, etc. .

The whole point of track days for many of us is to shave seconds off our lap times, in addition to just riding and having fun with our friends. But the core of it, to me anyway, is still improving riding skills and challenging myself to get better. I don't race any more, but I'm just as competitive with myself as when I was racing. I track my lap times judiciously, look at track mapping data to determine how I can get better, and when I achieve a goal I have set I get the same satisfaction as placing well in a race. I know a lot of others who view it the same way I do, and we have a lot of fun riding together in a "non-race" environment. The most injured I've ever gotten in my motorcycling days was getting hit from behind on the starting grid of a race, so I am happy to ride without the "race start" these days! Since I own the shop, run the track days, and we do support many racers and race teams as well, I always try to make sure I'm using all of the latest stuff so we can test it and I can make real-world recommendations to our supported racers on what works and what doesn't. That still doesn't mean it's not excessive or frivolous to spend a lot of money on a Ducati track bike when I could buy a crappy used 600 and still ride at track days, but I wouldn't get nearly the level of enjoyment out of it that I do riding the equipment I ride now. Been there done that. If that's all the money I had, then yes I'd still rather ride a crappy 600 than not ride, and that's what I would own. I don't spend my money on any other significant hobbies, for me bikes are the game I'm in, I know plenty of guys who spend a lot more on boats or cars than I do on bikes. So there you have it - my justification! ;-)

I don't need it, but man do I want it!!!!!

Besides, my kids will do just fine at the State College!!! ))

Jarel, please send some pics of the dash when you get it on, I need some bike porn to help me make it through these cold NY days...

$18,000 retail?