Hey Rich at AR....

iamlance · Apr 29, 2013

There are some questions with regard to the HP numbers you posted with your exhaust. Can you shed some light on this??
(Members,please post the clever {or not so}repartee on the other thread)

iamlance · Apr 29, 2013

ttkarp said:
i'm working right now:d

i said no repartee!!! It's my thread!!!! I'm the boss!!you're all banned now!!

:d

iamlance · Apr 29, 2013

BTW, this was meant as a serious thread.

iamlance · Apr 29, 2013

ttkarp said:
"If a new thread is started that is kept under control then i am happy to post up results from bikes fitted with our system. I will also answer any rapidbike queries you might have"...posted by Rich22

That's what made me start this thread!! I like their products, hope all of this gets sorted.

MacaveliMC · Apr 29, 2013

Why hasn't my complimentary AR Iconel exhaust showed up yet for being a Ducati1199 forum member??! This is 'merica! I want my free stuff! Rich you're a jerk!

....in all seriousness, Rich you're pretty awesome, and I fully plan on purchasing the exhaust when I convert to a track bike, even if you come on here and say it's actually made of particle board & Elmers glue. I will still love you for your time and research.

Trauma · Apr 29, 2013

pedrin said:
I cant believe this. I was sick of the other thread because of a few of you blowing each other for pages and pages about the lack of reproducibility of AR results. Now I take a lunch break and find out that someone has been kind enough to start a fresh thread on the subject. Hoping to hear about actual results, I click on it and what do I find? The same guys doing it again. You know who, you give the impression of being 10 years old, it is pathetic . Don't you have anything better to do today, something that actually contributes to society?. What are you doing all day long posting crap in this forum? don't you have a job? dude you are annoying
results please!

Not helping, this just eggs them on. Please remove this, we are trying to clean up this thread.

Jariva, iam, pedrin com'on, delete

Beanflicker · Apr 29, 2013

Deleted........

Gone to look at some .... for a while........

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Rich22 · Apr 30, 2013

Ok at last a sensible thread i can answer questions and post our dyno figures without getting attacked.
Should i get attacked then lets please all request the culprit/s gets an instant ban from the forum.

jjsC6 · Apr 30, 2013

Rich22 said:
Ok at last a sensible thread i can answer questions and post our dyno figures without getting attacked.
Should i get attacked then lets please all request the culprit/s gets an instant ban from the forum.

It's an internet forum. There is always the chance that not everyone will agree with you, and it becomes a fine line between disagreeing and attacking. I suggest if you want some sort of treaty you contact the site administrators via PM and ask them what the rules of engagement are on this forum.

Stw · Apr 30, 2013

jjsC6 said:
It's an internet forum. There is always the chance that not everyone will agree with you, and it becomes a fine line between disagreeing and attacking. I suggest if you want some sort of treaty you contact the site administrators via PM and ask them what the rules of engagement are on this forum.

Yeah..Lets just have a forum where everyone just gets along and agrees all the time.. How cool would that be

Are you guys for real???

ttkarp · Apr 30, 2013

Rich:
Can you define the difference between questioning and attacking? If everyone is on the same page it might eliminate potential miscommunications on this thread. Setting some parameters might be helpful.

Beanflicker · Apr 30, 2013

Stw said:
Yeah..Lets just have a forum where everyone just gets along and agrees all the time.. How cool would that be

Are you guys for real???

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Here we go again.......!....

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Stw · Apr 30, 2013

jjsC6 said:
It's an internet forum. There is always the chance that not everyone will agree with you, and it becomes a fine line between disagreeing and attacking. I suggest if you want some sort of treaty you contact the site administrators via PM and ask them what the rules of engagement are on this forum.

Trauma said:
Rich, a very poor way to start this thread. I kinda give up. I think the best idea for you as I wrote previously, is try to answer as many of the questions on these threads via FAQs on your site. It is obviuos you and the members cannot play well together.

Trauma... we have tried and tried.... But you are right... This is pointless...
If a question is not parsed exactly as AR would wish then it will be construed as an attack... and it will spiral from there...so I for one could care less about this futile thread..

Phl · Apr 30, 2013

Rich, never mind. Put on your thick skin and keep going here.
Let the "attackers" "attack" and stay professional.
No place for emotions here, though i understand how hard it must be, after putting so much work and passion into a product.

There is a solution for everything guys !!!!

Rich22 · Apr 30, 2013

I have contacted admin to let them know how difficult it is to get a sensible constructive thread going.

Here goes anyway, I will post graphs and answer questions.

WAfatboy · Apr 30, 2013

Hey Rich - can you post the specs of the air machine you have rigged on the dyno (pictured) please. I know you've said something like 150mph but is there a tech spec in terms of airflow i can compare with the setup at Bunbury?

lardawge · Apr 30, 2013

For the sake of clarity and to show there is no intentional withholding on your part, post dyno graphs with your exhaust compared with the full termis/new upmap. I think this is the main point of contention and would go a long way towards clearing things up for some.

Phl · Apr 30, 2013

please everybody keep in mind, that here are time zones on this planet, and people have jobs and families. just as a side note.

Rich22 · Apr 30, 2013

Yep I get the misses to stand there with her hair dryer at full chat

Fans move around 5QM of air per second. Tested speed 140-170mph

So many factors affect the results dyno to dyno.

Test in DIN
Air temperature on the day will affect by as much as 8bhp.
Rear tyre condition and type.
We test at sea level.
Strap the bike down nice and firm.
The bikes oil needs to be up to temperature.
Do runs until the results become consistent. On the pani this takes some time.
Once giving consistent runs do 4-5 straight off.
Test in 5th gear.
Disconnect rear wheel speed sensor and turn off all aids.
Dyno at 195hi.

Rich22 · Apr 30, 2013

I was not intending posting any further comparative graphs of AR vs Termis but as Akrapovich do this on there website and you specifically asked for them then ok.
Below are graphs from 2 bikes, they both have rapidbikes fitted and mapped to the max we could get to in the time permitted. We could possibly improve on these graphs but only slightly. Any questions fire away.

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