Keyless start

Gecko said:

I would love to get deeper into this topic.
It seems that the discussion can be splitted into four parts:

1) How does the Panigale PIN code system work and what is it really good for. And how does a PIN code affect re-installation of a new e-lock unit.

2) It would be great if a forum moderator could start a poll to find out what the main reasons would be for you guys to change the existing physical key to a keyless system.
There are for sure multiple different motivations, i.e.:

i.) improved security
ii.) usability (e.g. no need for a key at hand, just attach/sewing a tag into your gloves)
ii.) bling factor (starting your bike in front of Starbucks without sticking something into it)
iii.) weight. I guess the race guys would be happy to remove the whole e-lock thing. No need for a lock, bike should only have an on-off switch and should be as light and rugged as possible.

3) Key Lock mechanism. In multiple European countries it is mandatory by law (driven by insurance companies) to have a physical key lock on your bike.
I guess race guys give a .... about a key lock
I'd like to know whether it's a requirement in the US of Americas, Australia and other countries without an "A" at the beginning

4) What is really required to install a new e-lock unit on a Panigale. Some say its only the e-lock unit, some say dashboard and and ECU also have to be changed. And then others again say that synchronization of all three units can be done using the DDS. Is there a Ducati dealer/tech that could enlighten us?

Side note: All currently available keyless ingnition lock units on the market WON'T work on the Panigale because of the immobilizer logic!

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rm4two said:

Yeah I would love to find a way to get a keyless system on the Panigale.

As to your question regarding the PIN system, it's for starting the bike if the system doesn't recognize your key. From the manual:

"If the key is not acknowledged upon Key-ON and
once the check routine is over, the following will
happen:
- if the PIN CODE function is not active, the initial
lights check routine is skipped, the Standard
Screen is displayed with an E-LOCK error warning
and access to the Setting MENU is not allowed;
if the PIN CODE function is active, the PIN CODE
function page is displayed, allowing the rider to enter
the personal code (refer to “Vehicle release through
PIN CODE”)."

But again, the PIN code function must be active and you must has "A". So it's not a keyless system.

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Gecko said:

Makes no real sense to me. To switch on the bike, you already have to have a key. So this means one could switch on the bike entering a PIN code if the mechanical function of the key works and the electronics part won't?

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Sinjin said:

Alpha Racing has this available for the BMW RR.

alpha Racing Keyless ON/OFF Switch Kit V2 BMW S1000 RR (2015-) ? ALPHA SBK INC.

Not sure why something similar couldn't be developed for the Panigale. Seems as though it is a secure housing for the key and mount for the e-lock with an on/off switch.

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