Ohlins Semi Active Suspension

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Are we on the verge of a plug and play semi active suspension adaptor for our S and R model bikes?

For those of you who are unaware....

Ohlins have released a plug and play suspension control unit for the Multistrada to effectively make it a semi active suspension system that works with the bikes standard Ohlins Electronic suspension and standard dashboard control buttons. It has 3 settings...Comfort, touring and sport modes which adjusts the way the suspension acts to the conditions.

So....How long before we see this on our bikes?
 
I dont think a semi active suspension is ideal for a racing application, most racers would prefer to have fixed settings to have the biked dialed in for themselves. That is the main reason that the Panigale is able to run faster lap time over the HP4 which has the semi active suspension. On the road it has the advantage. However these bikes while primarily are used on the road, were designed for the race track.
 
it's on its way for sure... but the diff between racing systems and street will be big... look at the FGR and FGRT diff ... factor 6 ...
 
The semi-active suspension that Ohlins makes a kit box for known as "skyhook" is a Sachs unit with electronic valving (similar to the DDS/ZF system in the BMW HP4). The DES system in the Panigale is the "electric clickers" for rebound, damping - not real-time valving changes.

Although - Ducati will most probably ditch Ohlins on the 1199 to save $$$ and start using skyhook (junk) suspension.

The 2012-14 models will keep value longer for this alone.

George Villar
 
Semi-active suspension is the future and is already available on a number of cars. I for one am anxiously awaiting the release of the Ohlins Mechatronic rear shock for the 1199 since it will only cost only a couple hundred more than the TTX.
 
I wonder how that plug & play works. The skyhook suspension on the Multi has several sensors all over the bike. putting in all the wires and sensors hardly seems plug & play.
 
IdZer0 said:
I wonder how that plug & play works. The skyhook suspension on the Multi has several sensors all over the bike. putting in all the wires and sensors hardly seems plug & play.
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That's why it's called "semi-active". It reads information that is available on the stock ECU (on the ZX10r). Here is a little more from a magazine article on it...

The exact functionality is a closely guarded secret, but the gist is through programming the Mechatronics unit samples data from a variety of different sensors and inputs from the Ninja’s computer. It can measure variables like gear and throttle position, engine rpm, wheel speed and other parameters inside the motorcycle’s brain. Two riding modes are offered (Comfort and Sport), but they can’t be manually selected or modified. Instead the electronics select the modes, applying the optimum setting based on engine power mode selection, input received from the motorcycle and rider behavior.
 
IdZer0 said:
I wonder how that plug & play works. The skyhook suspension on the Multi has several sensors all over the bike. putting in all the wires and sensors hardly seems plug & play.
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For a after market rear shock as an example, i could only imagine a mini ECU with inbuilt sensor could be mounted readily on the shock since it is where compressing and rebounding is happening,during riding...Tricky part is tapping on the existing CAN lines to this mini ECU and being identified as an "Alien controller onboard" by the exisiting ECUs, if they authenticate to one another during ignition KEY ON....
 
I work be very interested in such a system for the Pani...I think folks may still forget this will still require you to set the sag and make sure the springs are set for your weight...
 
would'nt be suprise if Ohlin is successful with this "aftermarket",as the ducati stock SCU comes from them , i would call it an upgrade, like swapping entire ECU for termig exhuast upgrade (for the 1098,1198, SF--> IAW-5AM)

Exhaust: termig + ECU (magnetic Merelli) = Ducati make a big cut
suspension: SCU (ohlin)= Ducati no gain:) therfore lower price to consumers (direct)


you meant this?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t1pvat13Zc4
 
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IdZer0 said:
I wonder how that plug & play works. The skyhook suspension on the Multi has several sensors all over the bike. putting in all the wires and sensors hardly seems plug & play.
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Skyhook comprises of three accelerometers and a rate gyro. It's only a case of an upmap and mods to the loom to incorporate it onto a Panigale
 
Phil said:
there is already an aftermarket "SCU" for the Mulitstrada...
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Correct, as stated in my original post......

The discussion is about whether or not Ohlins will develop a SCU for our bikes.
 
It will add weight and complexity to our 1199's.
I doubt it will catch on for racing for this reason alone.
 

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