quickshifter on down shifts

Guys

I am concerned that my QS of the downshift is not working all of the time and seemingly never works from 6th down to 5th - I have checked the manual and cannot find anything that says the QS does not operate on a downshift from 6 to 5.

How much revs does the QS add on the downshift - it is honestly barely noticeable on my bike on most occasions and the bike certainly feels like it is bucking a fair bit.

I have triple checked the QS U/D is selected in the menu and is displayed on the screen at all times.

I mean, do you noticeably hear a pronounced rev blip or is it pretty much the revs rise only to the revs of the next lowest gear?

It works in all gears and on my bike it works flawlessly... Not one single missed shift in over 6,000 miles.

The blips will match revs for you.. If you down shift from high revs, it blips quite aggressively, if you downshift from 5,000 rpm, it's very gentle and almost un-noticeable.

If yours is different, it's not working correctly.

I'm beginning to think that the number of problems each owner will have with the 1299, is directly proportional to how well or badly the initial bike prep was done. The master tech that prepped my bike took a whole 2 days to get mine prepped and it has been completely perfect, dependable and reliable. There seem to be some new owners that have a BOATLOAD of problems and I can almost guarantee you that their bikes weren't prepped professionally and properly.

I too, thought my QS downshift was faulty. There is zero info from Ducati on how to properly use it. Manual hints at how to upshift, but something must of got lost in the Italian-english translation (just like their lame ... workshop manuals). Anyways, it was just my own fear that made the QS not work. Never having had a bike with it and with no info. Even my salesman gave no help. ("um just shift it down with no clutch, I guess.").
Anyways, it's confidence that it will make it work; and it does. I had to relearn how to downshift. Practice at slower speeds. Make sure you are NOT giving the bike ANY gas; take your hand off the throttle, don't even look at it. Any amount of gas will make the QS not only not go down a gear, it will pop back up into the gear you were in. Practice, practice, practice. After not being able to QS downshift, it now works flawless. Thought it was bike. Swore it was. Nope. My fear of the unknown. Now I can clutchless downshift at high rpm's and it's flawless, but only cause I had to start from day one and relearn how to shift.

Please give us your detailed breakdown of how you deconstructed this task at hand ...

QS works flawlessly on mine.... the trouble I have now is if I try to change down with the clutch I forget to release the throttle! ( not talking high speed just slowly backing the engine revs down...)

But if you try QS without throttle....they do not always seem to like it

I've had it bounce back a couple of times, I've yet to find out if it was user error I may of had the gass slightly open I can't remember but generally it's flawless

Dazzpowder said:

I've had it bounce back a couple of times, I've yet to find out if it was user error I may of had the gass slightly open I can't remember but generally it's flawless

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Total user error. As I said, I was that "user error" guy. Just a hint of throttle while downshifting and the QS will stop you from downshifting faster than a good Catholic school girl on prom night.

2,5k km's so far and not a glitch. How can you get this wrong?

Sorry...mine will downshift under gas!

80shilling said:

I'm beginning to think that the number of problems each owner will have with the 1299, is directly proportional to how well or badly the initial bike prep was done. The master tech that prepped my bike took a whole 2 days to get mine prepped and it has been completely perfect, dependable and reliable. There seem to be some new owners that have a BOATLOAD of problems and I can almost guarantee you that their bikes weren't prepped professionally and properly.

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Best thing I've read on here and I agree with this 100% - I believe if every dealer spent the time it's supposed have to prepare the bikes, there wouldn't be nearly half the issues.

I bought mine from a multi franchise dealer here in the UK. The guy who sold me the bike didn't even know anything about Ducati's, he was a Suzuki sales man! The dealer I bought from was over 2 hours from me, so I haven't been back there since but used a local, Ducati only dealer and they are perfect. When it went for the first service, they told me the suspension linkage was in "aggressive" mod and not "something link" which is what it's supposed to be in. The tyres were also over inflated.

Oh and the QS on mine is perfect, it has jumped to neutral once but I bodged the shift not being used to the bike. Not had any issues with it since getting used to it, shifts up and down perfectly, even down up/down from 5th to 6th and 6th to 5th. I'd go as far as saying as that always feels like the smoothest shift of them all on my bike.

I will use the clutch if I'm just bumbling around town at lower speeds, it doesn't like being up shifted at lower RPMs but no bike I've owned has liked that, you really need to be winding on a bit to shift up but downshifting at low speed is fine for me.

Please excuse lack of 1299 knowledge base, but is 1299 QS different/more advanced than that of 1199?

I was under the impression that 1199 QS could only do clutches upshifts, not downshifts..

Is that correct?

desmotesta said:

Please excuse lack of 1299 knowledge base, but is 1299 QS different/more advanced than that of 1199?

I was under the impression that 1199 QS could only do clutches upshifts, not downshifts..

Is that correct?

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The 1299's QS is more advanced than the 1199; it has downshifts incorporated as well with an autoblipper function for rev matching. S1000RR has it too, as will every new literbike released from here out, I suspect. Was surprised the R1 and RSV4 missed it since their racebikes all have it and it's not that hard to do once you have RBW in place. It's the new black!

As an old-school 1199 guy, my question for 1299 owners is whether you can downshift at part throttle, say to gear down prior to accelerating, not decelerating into a corner, and have the autoblipper work then. Guessing not, but wondering.

In the words of Vinny Gambini: "Maybe you didn't twist it hard enough"

I haven't REALLY forced it, but generally speaking it doesn't like to downshift when accelerating. But if you're at part throttle and at a steady state cruise or even a very light acceleration, yeah, it'll downshift.

My favorite trick on the streets is, when I'm approaching a red light or stop sign, to bang down through all the gears while on the brakes. Then from 2nd gear, just LIGHTLY nudge the shifter down. Bam, clutchless neutral

This takes some practice and works best when brakes are applied for some reason. If you tap too hard, you're in 1st, and must then undergo the arduous labor of pulling in the clutch when stopped. Sometimes, if you tap too lightly....the engine blips but you're still in 2nd. Gives you a little kick in the ... when it does that

edited because my dumb ... put "throttle" instead of "shifter". one shifts with the shift lever, not the throttle wtf was I thinking lol

Haven't had any issues with mine from day one. I've done 5 track days with it and it works even better at track speeds than it does on the street. I was MMP on Friday and Monday with mine. I was downshifting from 6th to 3rd coming from over 170mph (DDA shows 173.39mph) and it was flawless.

desmotesta said:

Please excuse lack of 1299 knowledge base, but is 1299 QS different/more advanced than that of 1199?

I was under the impression that 1199 QS could only do clutches upshifts, not downshifts..

Is that correct?

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I noticed that nobody even asked the OP if he has a 1199 or 1299. That would be embarrassing.

jjsC6 said:

I noticed that nobody even asked the OP if he has a 1199 or 1299. That would be embarrassing.

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For whom, the OP or the respondents?

i have a 1299....

I put some more kms on over the weekend and I think I am going to head past the dealership.

The upshift works fine, the downshift not so much, it really does not seem to blip very much at all, so consequently downshifts around 4 to 5,000 rpm are not too bad, but if you down shift at say 8,000rpm the bike really does lurch.

I also noticed that if you lightly touch the gear lever downwards (where it does seem to mechanically engage the next gear) then it will shift down and seem to blip but if you push the gear lever down through its range so it is mechanically engaging the next gear via the lever, then it changes down but does not seem to blip.

Correct me if I am wrong, but the gear shift is mechanical but there is a pressure sensor that momentarily cuts ignition to allow for the shift along with a throttle blip (or should be) to rev match as ignition comes back in so I am not sure how a light touch on the gear lever that activates the pressure switch but you can feel does not mechanically engage the gear translates into a downshift unless it is all electronically switched into gear changes.....

All I know is the last thing I want is a damaged gearbox from clutchless downshifts thinking the DS/QS has me covered when she aint working properly

If you're downshifting at 8000 rpm wouldn't that put you very close to red line in the lower gear. Maybe you're hitting the rev limiter and that's why the bike lurches ?

Just a thought.

Downshifting at 8000 RPM is interesting .