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VAST said:
glad you enjoyed! spread the word. a major market correction is overdue...
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Luckily, I'm one of the few who has a "good job" and will hold onto it for dear life. Trust me, people just think I'm a nut when I delve into our economic and political status quo.
 
people label people that know "nuts" "conspiracy theorists" etc. it's a defense mech. they prefer watching So You Think You Can Dance and eating .....


TransNone13 said:
Luckily, I'm one of the few who has a "good job" and will hold onto it for dear life. Trust me, people just think I'm a nut when I delve into our economic and political status quo.
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VAST said:
people label people that know "nuts" "conspiracy theorists" etc. it's a defense mech. they prefer watching So You Think You Can Dance and eating .....
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Check out God Bless America, one of my favorite movies that attacks that culture. Seriously, if only! I'm sure you know where to download it.
 
VAST said:
seems like a goofy Falling Down. DFENSE.
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I enjoy most films from Darko Entertainment, and basically the guy goes on a killing spree of reality TV stars. I liked it simply for that... Not entirely off with the allusion to Falling Down (also enjoyed).
 
sounds good. maybe it'll inspire some...

thx for suggestion.

maybe a sequel where he goes after MSM talking heads...

TransNone13 said:
I enjoy most films from Darko Entertainment, and basically the guy goes on a killing spree of reality TV stars. I liked it simply for that... Not entirely off with the allusion to Falling Down (also enjoyed).
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Our economic, with our debts (increasing) and our way of ignoring it...mathematically, our system will FAIL but just don't know when.

If we decide not to pay our debts or hint that we wont and other countries like china will sell our dollar for considerably cheaper, which will inflate our market.

It's lose lose situation. I had a interesting talks with economist few weeks ago.

I better buy gold and move to a another country. Lol
 
buy gold for sure! it's been stomped down by The Fed, JPM et al. you can dollar cost average right in or wait if you think it'll bottom out at 1100. note: miner extraction average cost is higher than 1100!

gold is the move. as is lead.

youngR said:
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so the end of the world is near, financial collapse is impending, in real terms what can any of us do to stop it?

Ok so you buy physical gold, problem is their's always someone with more firepower, food etc that will take it away from you.

If you don't have physical but own it in etfs like GLD etc, they won't be worth the paper it's written come the collapse.

It's out of my hands and I spend maybe five minutes a month worrying about crap I can't fix or do anything about.

Life's too short for that, I'd rather ride til the end comes........
 
GLD is a ponzi pure and simple and a large part of why spot prices have been hammered down. or you can thank GLD for giving you perhaps the last chance in our lifetimes to buy physical cheap.

worry or not, the point is one is doing certain things to preserve their wealth, at bare min. if riding a lot is preserving your wealth, then by all means ride instead of worry.

i don't worry -- i just review the facts and invest according to the big [real] picture.

zvez said:
so the end of the world is near, financial collapse is impending, in real terms what can any of us do to stop it?

Ok so you buy physical gold, problem is their's always someone with more firepower, food etc that will take it away from you.

If you don't have physical but own it in etfs like GLD etc, they won't be worth the paper it's written come the collapse.

It's out of my hands and I spend maybe five minutes a month worrying about crap I can't fix or do anything about.

Life's too short for that, I'd rather ride til the end comes........
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zvez said:
so the end of the world is near, financial collapse is impending, in real terms what can any of us do to stop it?

Ok so you buy physical gold, problem is their's always someone with more firepower, food etc that will take it away from you.

If you don't have physical but own it in etfs like GLD etc, they won't be worth the paper it's written come the collapse.

It's out of my hands and I spend maybe five minutes a month worrying about crap I can't fix or do anything about.

Life's too short for that, I'd rather ride til the end comes........
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I think I know little about life being short with my occupation (not being defensive but it just true) and it is short.

Dont think we were talking about total apocalypse where everyone is out for themselves but talking about a economic collaspe where our Dollar is worth .25 cents or similar.

It is true that you or I cant stop, but you can perhaps be ready for it. Not If but when that happens, some folks that maybe made the right move will be ok where as who dont will be hurting.
 
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It's going to be very difficult for the average retail investor to buy into anything in a meaningful way that will protect their retirement.

Look at how poorly hedge funds have performed in the last few years? and hedge fund is all about leveraging risk.


Vast, owning physical gold has huge pitfalls. First being able to secure it, second, being able to sell it at close to market value (the buyers always want to get their commission, so you lose several percentage points before you even start). Gold is traded much more like a currency now so unless the predictions of gold going to $5k an ounce (and how many years have they been saying that?) it's just not a stable bet. Just the huge drop in the last quarter is enough to illustrate that it's not the "safest" of havens.

Paladium or platinum perhaps but again securing it and unloading is not so easy.

youngR said:
I think I know little about life being short with my occupation (not being defensive but it just true) and it is short.

Dont think we were talking about total apocalypse where everyone is out for themselves but talking about a economic collaspe where our Dollar is worth .25 cents or similar.

It is true that you or I cant stop, but you can perhaps be ready for it. Not If but when that happens, some folks that maybe made the right move will be ok where as who dont will be hurting.
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look at gold adjusted to Dow or any other metric in last, say, 10 years. then look at gold same way over 20, 30 years. it outperforms all. it does swing hard, but volatility is where you make your money.

it is so easy to "unload" so i'd suggest you LEARN about ways of buying and selling before stating wrong facts. seriously, i can list multiple ways to buy and sell from dealers and hell, have you seen the brisk ebay sales of 1oz coins? it's too easy to sell and securing, well, that's something you haven't thought about either. so i suggest doing some research before opining...

edit: bonus: look at SP 500 in GOLD. and there's just way too many technicals charts to make the case for buying NOW.


zvez said:
It's going to be very difficult for the average retail investor to buy into anything in a meaningful way that will protect their retirement.

Look at how poorly hedge funds have performed in the last few years? and hedge fund is all about leveraging risk.


Vast, owning physical gold has huge pitfalls. First being able to secure it, second, being able to sell it at close to market value (the buyers always want to get their commission, so you lose several percentage points before you even start). Gold is traded much more like a currency now so unless the predictions of gold going to $5k an ounce (and how many years have they been saying that?) it's just not a stable bet. Just the huge drop in the last quarter is enough to illustrate that it's not the "safest" of havens.

Paladium or platinum perhaps but again securing it and unloading is not so easy.
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zvez said:
It's going to be very difficult for the average retail investor to buy into anything in a meaningful way that will protect their retirement.

Look at how poorly hedge funds have performed in the last few years? and hedge fund is all about leveraging risk.


Vast, owning physical gold has huge pitfalls. First being able to secure it, second, being able to sell it at close to market value (the buyers always want to get their commission, so you lose several percentage points before you even start). Gold is traded much more like a currency now so unless the predictions of gold going to $5k an ounce (and how many years have they been saying that?) it's just not a stable bet. Just the huge drop in the last quarter is enough to illustrate that it's not the "safest" of havens.

Paladium or platinum perhaps but again securing it and unloading is not so easy.
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I have heard from economist that buying silver (like a coin) may be a better than having a huge chuck of gold.

If we can predict the future and foresee when this will occur, I guess you could trade your dollar to some other currency that is more stable? Or marry a rich foreign girl? :D
 
you don't need huge chunks of any metal. like at the Gold Silver Ratio (GSR) and you can see why silver is a good move too and should appreciate more than gold, when the banks price suppression fails that is.

EDIT: MUST READ/SEE:

http://www.caseyresearch.com/articles/telegraphing-the-turnaround-in-gold


youngR said:
I have heard from economist that buying silver (like a coin) may be a better than having a huge chuck of gold.

If we can predict the future and foresee when this will occur, I guess you could trade your dollar to some other currency that is more stable? Or marry a rich foreign girl? :D
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