Tire replacement for the 2021 Panigale V4- Diablo Supercorsa SP?

Zippy09 · Aug 30, 2021

Hi there, just hit 4k on my 2021 Pani-V4 and the rear tire is showing wear to the cords and right down the middle. I downshift alot to stop and also have my EBC on level2 could that be the reason the middle wears quicker than the rest of the tire? Also commute on the freeway daily- In any event I am looking for other tire alternatives- any suggestions would be appreciated!

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JHTmcrider · Aug 30, 2021

I decided to go with Michelin Power GPs:

JHTmcrider · Aug 30, 2021

Michelin Power GP Tire Set Front Tire: 120/70ZR17 (58W), Rear Tire: 200/55ZR17 (78W) $392.98 USD From STG.

Read a few reviews on the Panigale FB Forums and watched a Dave Moss video about the differences in the circumference of the rear tires. Made some adjustments to the suspension by lowering the forks a bit in the triple clamps.

They are fantastic tires, and I love the feedback from the front tire better for my riding style. Dave Moss's vids show the Michelin's need a higher pressure (36 PSI) front and rear compared to Dunlop or Pirelli.

JHTmcrider · Aug 30, 2021

The Michelin's are a bit unusual looking compared to the taller Pirelli's, but they have tremendous feedback and again they fit my riding style better on the street as the tires don't have a "Triangulated" profile.

The profile of the Michelin's are more rounded I understand. This video is for the Power Cup 2 but they are similar in construction:

1299rFE · Aug 30, 2021

First off, why would you go past the wear bars on your tire? What do you think would happen if you had a blow out at speed? People taking unnecessary risks over a couple hundred bucks blows my mind

Val213 · Aug 30, 2021

Zippy09 said:
Hi there, just hit 4k on my 2021 Pani-V4 and the rear tire is showing wear to the cords and right down the middle. I downshift alot to stop and also have my EBC on level2 could that be the reason the middle wears quicker than the rest of the tire? Also commute on the freeway daily- In any event I am looking for other tire alternatives- any suggestions would be appreciated!

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Base on you riding style only alternative I see is Toyota Prius

FooRider · Aug 30, 2021

1299rFE said:
First off, why would you go past the wear bars on your tire? What do you think would happen if you had a blow out at speed? People taking unnecessary risks over a couple hundred bucks blows my mind

Same thing happened to me with Supercorsa SP’s because there are no wear bars in the middle of the tyre. And on street use it tends to wear out most in the middle. All wear bars on Zippy’s tyre seem still fine. Of course, you could measure the groove depth at the closest to center and try to monitor that.

1299rFE · Aug 30, 2021

As soon as that tire squares off its trash

JHTmcrider · Aug 30, 2021

I concur about the lack of wear bars on the center, not even a colored strip to help gauge the imminent cords showing. The Pirelli's are great tires, just not as great for the street. At least they are dual compound and I got close to 2500 miles out of the rear usually.

I'll stick with Michelin for a while prices really helped push that decision.

Zippy09 · Aug 30, 2021

JHTmcrider said:
Michelin Power GP Tire Set Front Tire: 120/70ZR17 (58W), Rear Tire: 200/55ZR17 (78W) $392.98 USD From STG.

Read a few reviews on the Panigale FB Forums and watched a Dave Moss video about the differences in the circumference of the rear tires. Made some adjustments to the suspension by lowering the forks a bit in the triple clamps.

They are fantastic tires, and I love the feedback from the front tire better for my riding style. Dave Moss's vids show the Michelin's need a higher pressure (36 PSI) front and rear compared to Dunlop or Pirelli.

Thats great info thanks for the tips J- I'll look it up!~

Zippy09 · Aug 30, 2021

FooRider said:
Same thing happened to me with Supercorsa SP’s because there are no wear bars in the middle of the tyre. And on street use it tends to wear out most in the middle. All wear bars on Zippy’s tyre seem still fine. Of course, you could measure the groove depth at the closest to center and try to monitor that.

J's right, no wear bars in the middle and tires looked just fine, I checked wear bars all around the morning of before going on a ride. Then, in less than 60 miles on a hot day I noticed the cords suddenly showed- good thing turning around was just a short ride getting home...

Zippy09 · Aug 30, 2021

Spoke with my Ducati mechanics and he agreed this is common because the tire is all around supersoft made for track. So he recommended the Diablo Rosso Corsa II with mixed compound soft- in the middle and supersoft all around which should work better for daily use.

https://www.pirelli.com/tires/en-us/motorcycle/all-tires/sheet/diablo-rosso-corsa-II
Still not cheap but will see no much many more miles I get on these.

Zippy09 · Aug 30, 2021

Val213 said:
Base on you riding style only alternative I see is Toyota Prius

Haha I'll give that a shot!

BoostFiend · Aug 30, 2021

I can highly recommend Pirelli Rosso Corsa II tires. I have had them on multiple bikes. They have 3 compounds on the rear tire. A harder touring like compound in the center. The second compound on the middle part of the shoulder that is high silica and is great in wet conditions, warms up quick and still wears well. Finally on the edge a sticky endurance race compound. 2 compounds on the front a better wearing center that is good in the cold and wet and again a endurance race compound on the edge.
They don't square off very much and still have lots of grip on the side of the tire when you want to play. I have put thousands of miles on the street and several track days. Very good overall tire.

Zippy09 · Aug 30, 2021

BoostFiend said:
I can highly recommend Pirelli Rosso Corsa II tires. I have had them on multiple bikes. They have 3 compounds on the rear tire. A harder touring like compound in the center. The second compound on the middle part of the shoulder that is high silica and is great in wet conditions, warms up quick and still wears well. Finally on the edge a sticky endurance race compound. 2 compounds on the front a better wearing center that is good in the cold and wet and again a endurance race compound on the edge.
They don't square off very much and still have lots of grip on the side of the tire when you want to play. I have put thousands of miles on the street and several track days. Very good overall tire.

Good to hear, and same profile as the OEM- I will go ahead with those and report back! Thanks for the info Boost.

DANGER CLOSE · Aug 30, 2021

I agree with this, I also run these on the V4R and 1199R great street tires…

BoostFiend said:
I can highly recommend Pirelli Rosso Corsa II tires. I have had them on multiple bikes. They have 3 compounds on the rear tire. A harder touring like compound in the center. The second compound on the middle part of the shoulder that is high silica and is great in wet conditions, warms up quick and still wears well. Finally on the edge a sticky endurance race compound. 2 compounds on the front a better wearing center that is good in the cold and wet and again a endurance race compound on the edge.
They don't square off very much and still have lots of grip on the side of the tire when you want to play. I have put thousands of miles on the street and several track days. Very good overall tire.

1299rFE · Aug 30, 2021

For street use there is no need to run SP's. I agree you will be happy with the Rosso's. In the future, never allow a tire to run till it has little grove or tread pattern. This should automatically tell you your tire replacement should be urgent.

WyldCFH · Aug 30, 2021

The Rosso Corsa II is the OEM tire on the SFv4. I've run mine on cold asphalt, hot asphalt, wet asphalt and combinations of wet on hot/cold. Plus a couple track days. The only issue was wet roads and playing with the throttle over paint lines or tar snakes.
They only came off so I could run Supercorsa TDs at at COTA trackday.
I'm quite certain most people here are faster than me on track, but from a semi slow guy perspective, the Rosso Corsa II are great and hold the torque well.

tehrlich · Aug 30, 2021

I switched to Rosso Corsa II's on my V4s for the street. I also have another set of wheels for the track with TD's on them.

Personally, I think this is the best way to go. Use street tires for the street, and track tires for the track!

Paul G · Aug 30, 2021

I destroyed new SP's by running them at the tire shops pressure on the street which was 36 cold in summer

Whatever you stick keep and eye on pressure, this was after one tank of gas. I thought the bike was a bit squirrelly! After this they were hopeless, they cleaned up but the grip was gone.

Back to your original question, looking at your wear patterns you could go with either a Mich road 5 if you have a lot of wet riding or a power 5, Otherwise a Metz M7 or 9, sticking with Pirelli then Rosso 3's are fine. Whatever is cheapest.

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