Weekend ride with the new Termi Full System

I finally got my 1199 Base back Sat. from Ducati after Installing the Full Termi system. I was a little disappointed when they forgot to ceramic coat two pieces of the exhaust system, same part but on both sides. When I test drove it; one word came to mind: WOW! I quickly forgot about the non ceramic coated parts. Plus they had already sent the two parts they had in stock to get ceramic coated and it should be at their shop in a couple of days for a swap out.

I test drove my bike all day Sat and Sun with the baffles in and out. OUT is definitely the way to go. It is much louder. The BARK of the Termi with the baffles out is just an amazing sound and the bike runs much smoother than with the baffles in. With the baffles in, it wasnt much louder than the stock except deeper. My impressions of the Full Termi's are.

1. The engine feels un-restricted. You can feel the massive air flow through those huge headers. Compared to the stock headers.
2. More Torque!
3. Way more power! throughout the whole power Band. Low, Mid and High its everywhere.
4. The ceramic coat works as advertised. It reduced the heat about 40-50%. I no longer have to wrap the rear header (outside temp 97F, engine temp 217F through some very slow in town traffic). The header cools down almost instantly. The reduced seat heat and inner thigh heat could be a combination of the engine break in, Cat's removed, Ceramic Coat, Larger Header for more air flow through the pipes and the Carbon fiber heat shield that has ceramic coat underneath.
5. No problems what so ever in the rev range, all though I did feel it with the baffle's in.

Here are some picture I took with my iphone of what I've done to the bike so far and note the part that is not ceramic coated on the silencers. My buddy that holding the bike in the picture of us trying to show the HID's likes the two tone Exhaust. What do you guys think? Na I want it black to match. I didn't get the Ohlins rear shocks/front fork and Rizoma Rear Sets installed yet hopefully next weekend.


DP Carbon Fiber Air duct Cover (Left)


DP Carbon Fiber Air duct Cover (Right)


Full Termi System and DP Carbon Clutch cover


CRG Levers and Spider Grips


Xebrite HID's 55W 6000K Low Beam


DP Carbon Rear Shock cover


DP Carbon Swing Arm Cover


DP Carbon Rear Tire Hugger

Looking great bud

More Pics


Termi Carbon Fiber Heat Shield


Rizoma foot Pegs with DP Carbon Heal Guard (Soon to be replaced by Rizoma Rear Sets)


BST Carbon Fiber Wheels with Speedymoto rear wheel slider


DP Tail Tidy and Rizoma Turn Signals


DP Carbon Generator cover


Race Seat (had Comfort Seat it felt too high)


DP Carbon Front Wheel Hugger

and some more


DP Carbon Key Guard


BST Carbon Front wheel


DP Carbon Tank Protector


SpeedyMoto Front Wheel Slider

Quick question, on your heat shield did you do the ceramic protection on the inside of the carbon ??

Overall looking great !

D1199 said:

Quick question, on your heat shield did you do the ceramic protection on the inside of the carbon ??

Overall looking great !

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Yes

your bike looks great so does the coating on your termi system. congrats. Your assessment on the system has me confused. I ask a lot of questions on the full system vs just slips and talk to many people on this site that have a full system and or slips. You and one other are the only ones saying how great a full system is. This has me curious. First I am not saying you are lying at all about your discoveries. As many know I have a friend that works for ducati in KY. He says there are great gains in ceramic coating the pipes. i was laughed at when i said this. The coating doesnt allow the headers to expand under the heat as a regular SS header would. This would help in the performance and i am wondering if this could be the reason why (the other guy on here has his termis ceramic coated too, coincidence?). Also i know ducati is releasing a new up map for the full system but i dont know if that was released yet. Do you know what map you have?

http://ducati1199.com/ducati-1199/2040-new-map-termi.html

here is the post i mentioned ceramic coating

All dyno tests/results, as well as all upmap development by Ducati and others, have been done using a non-coated pipe. So if the coating makes such a big difference, wouldn't the maps be wrong after the pipe is at tempature? And does anyone really know what the coating does to the flow characteristics of a exhaust system? Don't get me wrong, they look great, I am just don't understand how they could have much if any influence on preformance.

Looks good - some very tasteful and performance enhancing mods

More pics of the whole bike please.

im not an expert trauma but from my general guessing is that the upmaps have to due with the fuel and air mixture coming into the bike which would make it run with too much air not enough fuel or too much fuel not enough air. The exhaust is the releasing of these gases and pressure. I could be very wrong but that is what makes sense to me. If i am wrong then i learned something new.

mark419ny said:

http://ducati1199.com/ducati-1199/2040-new-map-termi.html

here is the post i mentioned ceramic coating

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Damn was hoping that you uploaded the upmap-2

mark419ny said:

your bike looks great so does the coating on your termi system. congrats. Your assessment on the system has me confused. I ask a lot of questions on the full system vs just slips and talk to many people on this site that have a full system and or slips. You and one other are the only ones saying how great a full system is. This has me curious. First I am not saying you are lying at all about your discoveries. As many know I have a friend that works for ducati in KY. He says there are great gains in ceramic coating the pipes. i was laughed at when i said this. The coating doesnt allow the headers to expand under the heat as a regular SS header would. This would help in the performance and i am wondering if this could be the reason why (the other guy on here has his termis ceramic coated too, coincidence?). Also i know ducati is releasing a new up map for the full system but i dont know if that was released yet. Do you know what map you have?

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Not sure if the coating helps performance. it's coated inside and out and I did it for the heat and it works as advertised but if it helps with performance that's a plus.

I read mixed reviews on the full termi's also mostly from the U.K.
I test drove a Demo bike with full headers fell in love and mine seems to be better than the demo bike. If I recall right the demo bike had the baffles installed I think to be legal here in CA.

Before I spent a grip of money and bought the Termi's I researched it a lot. Read various forums, demo'd at the dealers, rode my friends pani with slip on, read reviews, rode full systems and talked to various Ducati mechanics. My opinion is the full systems is the best option. Not trying to convince/debate anyone. It's just my opinion and I've been riding sports bike for 29 yrs. and I haven't been happier.

thats a good point about the uk. not trying to say your wrong or right thats your opinion just a coincidence that both you and cali duc are in cali both have ceramic coated systems and both love them. where as others do not . small sample size but looks like you should spend the extra coin and get them coated.

Sorry i dont have access to upmap too buddy wish i did. But i will call about it after i speak with akra once again.

Xbox said:

Looks good - some very tasteful and performance enhancing mods

More pics of the whole bike please.

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Thanks XBOX. I took these pictures for my insurance company because They insured me up to $15,000 of accessories and they want some pictures. I will plan on taking some this weekend, hopefully i could have the Rizoma rear sets and Ohlins on by then. That will complete my major cost mods. I'm trying to keep the original look but just light weight performance enhancements and a little protective gear.

I installed a full termi system on my 1199 base last friday, no ceramic coat, used the up-map that came with the system, and yes, more power, specially mid-range, throttle feels smoother. Is not really loud (no baffle off course) considering the fact that is a full system, (have a full system on my rc8 and is 3 times louder) I think has to do with how much packing is still inside the new mufflers, when Carlos Checa tested the 1199 couple of weeks ago, that sound is the one I was looking for, but they provably had racing mufflers on that bike, Don't get me wrong, the sound is deeper and louder than stock, stock has a metallic sound, full system is just a deep tone. Heat ways is hotter than stock, maybe because of the bigger pipe size they used. I will consider ceramic coating, at least for the under seat pipe.

ecuadorian said:

I installed a full termi system on my 1199 base last friday, no ceramic coat, used the up-map that came with the system, and yes, more power, specially mid-range, throttle feels smoother. Is not really loud (no baffle off course) considering the fact that is a full system, (have a full system on my rc8 and is 3 times louder) I think has to do with how much packing is still inside the new mufflers, when Carlos Checa tested the 1199 couple of weeks ago, that sound is the one I was looking for, but they provably had racing mufflers on that bike, Don't get me wrong, the sound is deeper and louder than stock, stock has a metallic sound, full system is just a deep tone. Heat ways is hotter than stock, maybe because of the bigger pipe size they used. I will consider ceramic coating, at least for the under seat pipe.

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I agree totall with you. But to me the stock system was already loud to me but the Termi is louder than the stock maybe 4 or 5 db at idle but when you are approaching 7000 RPM and up screaming through the canyons thats when they shine

Yes, I forgot to mention, at 7k plus rpm's the sound is amazing!!!!! Hold on tight to the handle bars.....

I have the full system on my S. The only downside is that I cant get on to any track days - it doesnt pass the noise regs........



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Oh .. them black ceramic coated pipes do indeed look outstanding on the S. Great mods Scrapper X, nice and tasteful.