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Nice! The epitome of the Panigale Range IMO, but of course I can be biased in this situation.
 
Congrats!

I was going to get the R but then i thought it'll not see a lot of trackdays so i picked 1299S instead, but now i wish i did
 
Get it on the track...maybe in June when it stops raining there...it rips!

Congrats!
 
What kind of price are we talking for a left over '15R?

Great time to buy a '15 model, no question
 
+1 whats the deal, i ask my dealer to run the numbers for me, to upgrade my 1299S 2k mls perfect shape, 16k trade in :rolleyes: its like 10k Loss

These bikes have terrible trade in at the dealer.. The minute you sign the paperwork and ride it home it loses 35 to 40% of its value (compared to what you just paid them for it). They have to resell it as a used bike. It doesn't matter how little miles are on it because it has now been titled....

The best deal for you is to sell it yourself.. The problem is finding someone that has either a lot of cash (or great credit to finance it) since they cannot get as good a finance rate on a used bike and the banks want more down payment. When you are trying to sell a basically brand new bike you are up against the dealer which can sell one with better financing etc.

It's that way for just about any bike out there.. it is just that the Ducati's cost so much more than most other bikes so therefore you are just buried in them longer.. You might as well ride it and enjoy it since you are stuck with it for a while unless you are willing to take a bath in trading it in.

Besides on the street the 1299 is a better bike to ride since it has more torque.. The R model is a fine machine but since it is built to extract the most horsepower at higher rpm's and has fewer piston rings, lighter flywheel etc. I am wondering how well it would hold up in the long run for someone that rides a lot on the street? It is basically a race bike and most race bikes are not designed with longevity in mind..

Speedy
 
These bikes have terrible trade in at the dealer.. The minute you sign the paperwork and ride it home it loses 35 to 40% of its value (compared to what you just paid them for it). They have to resell it as a used bike. It doesn't matter how little miles are on it because it has now been titled....

The best deal for you is to sell it yourself.. The problem is finding someone that has either a lot of cash (or great credit to finance it) since they cannot get as good a finance rate on a used bike and the banks want more down payment. When you are trying to sell a basically brand new bike you are up against the dealer which can sell one with better financing etc.

It's that way for just about any bike out there.. it is just that the Ducati's cost so much more than most other bikes so therefore you are just buried in them longer.. You might as well ride it and enjoy it since you are stuck with it for a while unless you are willing to take a bath in trading it in.

Besides on the street the 1299 is a better bike to ride since it has more torque.. The R model is a fine machine but since it is built to extract the most horsepower at higher rpm's and has fewer piston rings, lighter flywheel etc. I am wondering how well it would hold up in the long run for someone that rides a lot on the street? It is basically a race bike and most race bikes are not designed with longevity in mind..

Speedy

Nailed it.

All of this is very true. For 99.9% of riders, the R will not be an "upgrade". The only exception might be the Expert racers running at the pointy end of the field. But even then, if they have built/tuned their 1299S properly, I would be willing to bet their lap times would be the same.
 

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