Well, there you have it

Guy’s it is not worth it! You can’t fix stupid, engaging in discussion about this Nobel prize winning medicine again and again with people who don’t want to accept facts turns into feeding the trolls (them). Let it go!

Bo13R said:

Guy’s it is not worth it! You can’t fix stupid, engaging in discussion about this Nobel prize winning medicine again and again with people who don’t want to accept facts turns into feeding the trolls (them). Let it go!

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All true. DC is not capable of engaging in a rational debate on the subject because he won’t objectively look at any data so his narrative goes unchanged. He claims he is a researcher with published studies. One of the hallmarks of good research is to examine all possibilities. Clearly that skill set is not in this guys wheel house. Personally, I’m a fan of anything that works.

I wonder why merck is advertising that they're looking for lab rats to volunteer for clinical trials to battle covid when the vaccine is supposed to work wonders.

If you've tested positive in the last 5 days, we'd like to hear from you

So I call our fab shop today to speak with our automation guru. Turns out he went to the hospital for a kidney stone. They tested him do Covid. Positive test.

He had and still has no symptoms (day 7, 4 days after the visit). Apparently there is a list for people showing up for Covid. He went on that list even though Covid had nothing to do with his visit. So how does that factor into the “hospitalization” data?

endodoc said:

… One of the hallmarks of good research is to examine all possibilities…

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Interesting that so many “scientists” seem to have forgotten that.

craig bush said:

Interesting that so many “scientists” seem to have forgotten that.

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Unfortunately, I think that has a bit to do with the somewhat interesting “compensation” packages available these days for “voting” the right direction. Remember the old line from the financial world. “What does a good CPA say when you ask him what 3 + 3 is?” “Whatever you want it to be”

DCPanni said:

Yea…..

Patients overdosing on ivermectin backing up rural Oklahoma hospitals, ambulances

A rural Oklahoma doctor said patients who are taking the horse de-wormer medication, ivermectin, to fight COVID-19 are causing emergency room and ambulance back ups.

kfor.com

Better go back to smoking cow pies or corn silk out there on the grassy flatlands of America

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Kinda interesting you post this well after it was proven false even by far-left sources. I saw a CNN article saying it's false. Original source basically completely .......ized a vague quote from some random ... doctor.

Hu look at that. It's true. Finally had a minute to look that up.

IVERMECTIN won the 2015 Nobel Prize for human cures

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Vbreeze said:

Used very inexpensive Ivermectin killing the virus instead of shots:
* India, with 1.3 BILLION people living densely populated cities. Pandemic OVER.
We already reviewed this several times.
* Slovakia - Pandemic OVER.
* Ceck Republic - Pandemic OVER.

Using expensive shots that do not kill the virus:
* Israel 78% vax'ed - MUCH WORSE AFTER COVID SHOTS.
* USA >50% vax'ed - still ......, getting more ......

Let me know if the charts are confusing somehow. These are current covid cases anyone can look up the stats right here:

Israel COVID - Coronavirus Statistics - Worldometer

Israel Coronavirus update with statistics and graphs: total and new cases, deaths per day, mortality and recovery rates, current active cases, recoveries, trends and timeline.

www.worldometers.info

How is this not blindingly obvious?
You can look up real info on Ivermectin. FDA approved for humans in 1996. Over 4 billion doses administered to humans BEFORE the pandemic over decades. Little to no side effects. The WHO calls it one of the worlds most essential drugs which is an official list btw - puts it up there with penicillin and aspirin.
We went over this like 3 times in this thread.
India used Ivermectin also as a preventative. It's that safe.


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Covid is far from over in India (40k new cases daily, mutations within Indian population created Delta variant, 26% vaccinated) which then spread like wildfire to other countries in the midst of trying to get their populations vaccinated. And since Delta is more contagious, it broke through these countries modest vaccination rates. No country has herd immunity and with globalization, it will take 80% of the WORLD to be vaccinated before we see appreciable decreases.

Re: Slovakia, don't count your chickens before they hatch...


And have you taken ivermectin? Do you know the mechanism of action of ivermectin and how it works with covid? What is the consensus of the WHO on use of ivermectin for covid prevention? Also, what's your expertise in this virology?

Jeez rac, and you accuse me of mansplaining. Who gives a ..... If something worked for someone and you find yourself in a similar situation, that person should have the right to do as the please with regard to self intervention strategies.
No we don’t know all the novel off label uses of pharmaceuticals but that’s how you find out.

Vaccinated or not your going to get Covid. If your asymptomatic you may have it an not know it vaccinated or not and you cruise around passing it along just like all the other flu seasons. If you do get Covid and you are on the unfortunate end of the spectrum, you were going to get something to put you there eventually. Vaccines? Seem to afford the same protection all the other flu shots ever did. Bla bla bla.

Best thing to do with Covid, nothing. Just like all the rest of the flu seasons. The people infecting others are the ones building herd immunity. Survival of the fittest. It’s worked for millions of years. Know what I did when I got Covid, went downstairs into my gym and trained just like every other day. Ran my businesses, rode my bike, surfed and probably infected my wife who also had little to no symptoms. Same .... I did in 2019, 2018, 2017——..if it weren’t for the news, I wouldn’t know Covid existed and neither would anyone else..It would be another flu season. The entire globe has made a mockery of this thing. Hope everyone is on the winning side of the stock market.

What I never hear mentioned on the news is the millions and millions and millions of people who got Covid, had no symptoms or general flu like symptoms and went about there lives like any other flu season and except for all the BS they had to endure from the fallout of the few. Not trying to be unsympathetic but ...., the numbers tell the story.

It's politics and a money grab. The media is just the distributor of all this fear in the general public.

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It's politics and a money grab. The media is just the distributor of all this fear in the general public.

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Exactly right sir. I got Covid in November of 2020. I got it at Flex Fitness in SoCal. All the other gyms had .... down. Flex told the authorities to .... off. They never closed. If you wanted to wear a mask, you could but they were not required. 3/4,of the people in there got Covid. It was a Petri dish. Know what happened? Nothing. Some Missed a few days some didn’t miss any. Same exact scenario that would have played out any other year. No one was washing or disinfecting anything and because all the other gyms closed, that place was packed. Now that’s how you do herd immunity.

Yes I took ivermectin and I got over an out of control fever, illness spiraling worse and worse, in 3 hours. Next day I was up and around again. This is typical of ivermectin because it kills the virus. The shots do not kill the virus.

My expertise is I can read arrows.
India, FLAT curve, going down. looks IN control to me

Over 78% vax
Israel going way up - looks out of control to me
Over 60% vax
USA going way up - looks out of control to me

This covid shot is not working. So they call it Delta or Alfa or Fred.
It ain't working.

rac1ngsnak3 said:

Covid is far from over in India (40k new cases daily, mutations within Indian population created Delta variant, 26% vaccinated) which then spread like wildfire to other countries in the midst of trying to get their populations vaccinated. And since Delta is more contagious, it broke through these countries modest vaccination rates. No country has herd immunity and with globalization, it will take 80% of the WORLD to be vaccinated before we see appreciable decreases.

Re: Slovakia, don't count your chickens before they hatch...


And have you taken ivermectin? Do you know the mechanism of action of ivermectin and how it works with covid? What is the consensus of the WHO on use of ivermectin for covid prevention? Also, what's your expertise in this virology?

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And what do you mean the vaccine doesn't kill the virus??? Sure it does. It causes your immune system to recognize and kill the virus. It's well documented. Nobel prize winning ..... f your vaccinated you've overwhelmed you immune system bc of Delta's ability to replicate more efficiently do you get

You didn't answer how ivermectin works with covid. Because there's no definitive mechanism of action on how ivermectin works to treat covid. I'd rather put something in my body that I know how it works rather than one were I'm guessing.

Were you confirmed Covid+?

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Exactly right sir. I got Covid in November of 2020. I got it at Flex Fitness in SoCal. All the other gyms had .... down. Flex told the authorities to .... off. They never closed. If you wanted to wear a mask, you could but they were not required. 3/4,of the people in there got Covid. It was a Petri dish. Know what happened? Nothing. Some Missed a few days some didn’t miss any. Same exact scenario that would have played out any other year. No one was washing or disinfecting anything and because all the other gyms closed, that place was packed. Now that’s how you do herd immunity.

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This is just ......... This is the reason why we're in the situation we're in. Entitled pricks with Dunning-Kruger. And then they show up to the hospital when they're sick and expect the world to bend to them.

I've seen the effects of covid for those that get hospitalized. It's not good. Young people with strokes, paralyzed, and trached. Sure it happens not very frequently but unvaccinated and unmasked put others at risk which then puts me at risk. So those unvaccinated and unmasked can get .......

LOL

Someone isn't a happy camper. As stated, if there was no media and political involvement and financial gains to be had from Covid, everyone on this planet would have continued life the same as before the pandemic. There would be deaths, just like the flu but nothing in life would have changed. The numbers are clearly skewed to instill fear in the general public. Recovery rates are never mentioned. Majority of the "serious" case patients having underlying health conditions which probably had to do with their "serious" case is never mentioned. FDA trying to convince the general public to stay away from a drug they themselves approved years ago and has won a nobel prize for human use is never mentioned. Trying to force a vaccination on the general public when it's obvious that it doesn't help prevent you from getting covid or passing it on is stupid at best. People get the flu shot and end up being seriously sick. Vaccinated people have been seriously sick and who knows how many Vaccinated people have already died. I wonder what that count is and if they would actually disclose that info even though i highly doubt it because that would probably go against their agenda. If you can't understand with just these stated facts alone that there is a hidden agenda here, then well, continue to keep your blinders on and continue to follow the herd. I believe in science and vaccinations and have been vaccinated for other .... as well as my kids but this covid vaccine, ........not a chance. Same reason i don't get the flu shot or get my kids the flu shot. .... just doesn't work.

rac1ngsnak3 said:

…This is the reason why we're in the situation we're in. Entitled pricks with Dunning-Kruger….

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And this is the most ironic statement I’ve seen this week. Lol

Ah because ALL the epidemiologists and virologists in world are conspiring to pick your pocket. We've got idiocracy right here.

I didn't realize this forum was composed of so many conspiracy theorists and Qanon...