Yep that sums it all up no brains no skill. Kindergarten class then off to Duc Modified for snak.
Well, there you have it
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What's crazy is that all these vax pushers on here can't seem to have a normal debate about this covid .... without getting all butt hurt by the other side of opinions. Instead, they want to point fingers, provide no proof of the so called benefits of the vaccine and how it has saved so many lives thus far and any other false promises they've heard by the media. None of this .... needs to be personal. As humans, we are entitled to have our own opinions that may differ from the next person. That freedom is what the anti "covid vax" side is trying to defend here. Nothing else. I don't care if the vax cured aids. The fact that our so called leaders are trying to force us to do something against our own will is where the problem lies, especially when whats being pushed on us hasn't proved to be effective at all. A healthy logical debate is good, productive and beneficial for both sides but the lack of reasoning is counterproductive and the personal jabs is even worse. Provide data that both sides can view and come to their own conclusion, share your own personal experience with the virus and respect the other sides opinion. That or stfu.
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Mick, how do you type when you’ve got your hands full with Endodoc’s .... and craig’s balls?
I think you and I need to meet up over coffee. You in norcal? I will bring my o lady she can kick your ... while you flap them gums.
Mick, don’t even bother with this coward. He wouldn’t show up if you paid him and by the verbiage in the responses he’s been giving, he sounds about 15 so even if he wanted to show up, his mom would have to drive him. You know, we all joke about stuff and ruffle the feathers every once in a while and at least for me, it’s all goofy banter hell, I even like Paul but this racsak clown is on a whole different level.
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That guy is a genuine piece of work. Never really thought about being an xpat but man it’s not looking so good for this place. It’s not the vax against the unvax it’s the virus against the unprotected. An unvax individual who has had the virus and arguably has better protection against future issues than the vax individual still gets counted as an unvax and that’s just poor accounting or in this case, biased accounting for the narrative.
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I have a few questions for anyone who is pushing the Vax mandate.
First: If you are fully vaccinated, can you still get Covid?
Second: If you are fully vaccinated, can you transmit or pass on Covid?
Third: What are the potential short term side effects? What are the potential long term side effects?
First: If you are fully vaccinated, can you still get Covid?
Second: If you are fully vaccinated, can you transmit or pass on Covid?
Third: What are the potential short term side effects? What are the potential long term side effects?
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I'll bite since I seem to be the only rationale person here.
1.) Yes, there is a chance of acquiring covid when vaccinated. The chance of getting covid when vaccinated is CONSIDERABLY lower than unvaccinated. It decreases this chance by 91%. Also, it decreases covid hospitalization by 60-96%. And decreases covid death by 70%. (Coronavirus Disease 2019, DEFINE_ME, The impact of vaccination on COVID-19 outbreaks in the United States
2.) Yes, there is a chance of transmitting covid when vaccinated. The chance of spreading covid when vaccinated is CONSIDERABLY lower than unvaccinated. It decreases this chance from 30% to 11%. (Study ties COVID vaccines to lower transmission rates)
3.) Short term: sore arm, feel miserable for a 2-3 days. Low risk for Long term: none noted so far (Information about the Pfizer-BioNTech COVID-19 Vaccine)
What we're seeing right now, is that unvaccinated people have high viral loads and are interacting with vaccinated people. The vaccinated people's immune system gets overwhelmed by the high viral transmission/contagiousness of those unvaccinated. We won't see appreciable reductions in covid cases without some sort of mitigation strategy. Left unchecked, covid will continue to mutate and get more deadly. The only reason we're not totally screwed is that we have over 50% vaccination rate.
I have few questions for this anti-covid vax
1.) Have you ever been vaccinated before?
2.) Do you wear a helmet when you ride?
3.) Do you challenge other vaccines?
4.) What are the scientific downside to taking the covid vaccine?
And for those that are anti-mask
1.) Do you sneeze/cough without covering your mouth?
2.) Would you have unprotected ... if you know that there's a high risk for acquiring an STD?
3.) Do you wear a helmet when you ride?
4. What are the scientific downsides to wearing a mask?
Sources would be appreciated.
Good post. Question, why are the unvaccinated who have had Covid and have some protection being shoehorned into the same category as the unvaccinated who have not had Covid and have no antibody protection. There are millions of unvax individuals who have had Covid without much issues and do have some degree of protection. Should they not be counted as vaccinated? (Endo vs exo). This accounting is a bit messy. Are you suggesting that individuals with endogenous protection also get the vaccine? If so why?
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If you get Covid, can you get it again? There’s your answer
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Those unvaccinated are making the vaccine you got less effective
LOL right and I can also get Covid again vaccinated so you didn’t answer the question. How am I now different than you? Are you really saying that your exogenously derived protection is better than my endogenously derived protection? If not then we are no different but you want to classify me as one of the evil non vaccinated. I started clearly that I was not anti vax and if it afforded me some benefit over the proven system I already have data on then I would for sure get it. So how am I in the hot seat and you are not?
You just did it again. Unvaccinated with antibodies from prior infection are the same as unvaccinated with no antibodies? You have them both in the unvaccinated category and they are clearly different. This is the problem, you want to conveniently leave the details out. Show us the data that say I am more likely as an endogenous antibody producer to infect others than you as an exogenously induced antibody producer.
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That you, Karen?
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This post ^^^ should appear as the illustrative example next to “Dunning-Kruger Effect” in the dictionary.
Anyone who thinks they can draw definitive conclusions from the linked references needs some refresher training on how to critically assess data.
This is a perfect example of why there is so much misinformation being spread.
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