DDA+ and GPS

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Jun 2019
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Even better if its a format that is easy to parse. CVS is a good choice since its supported by many tools. If that is something that DDA can provide it would make it far more useful for me.
 
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Oct 2013
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Many thanks for your input and offer to help improve the DDA Marco!


Hi Marco,
iii-b) Can you rename the Torque_Fast and Torque_slow channels to what they really are: DTC and DWC? Or indeed if DDA doesn't store data for both channels then please fix do them. Having not yet tracked the V4, I can't verify if they work.
May be @ex04053 can?


Tx, Robert
I can confirm both channels work, here's some data from both at my local track. I'm not sure what the scale refers to though...:

 

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Jul 2019
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I can confirm both channels work
wow DTC and DWC interventions look pretty detailed indeed.
If activated, it looks like the DDA actually logs the level of DTC and DWC intervention with every datapoint on track! cool

@mpita
Marco, can you confirm this?
Can you additionally please add the channels: ABS, DSC, EBC, Engine Temperature and Power (HP) channels per GPS data-point similarly as DTC/DWC graphs?

FYI Lean Angle, Speed, Power (HP) and mileage channels are already delivered to Ducati Link app via DMS module, so starting with Power (HP) it should be easy to add to DDA dataset too (if Ducati agrees that is). :)
 
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Jul 2019
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Copy-paste from the V4 WORKSHOP MANUAL there are actually 2 GPS enabled setups sold for the V4:

"Ducati Lap Timer GPS (DLT GPS)
The DLT GPS allows lap times to be automatically recorded, stored and displayed directly on the instrument panel each time the finish line is crossed – providing the rider has previously entered the finish line coordinates, by pressing the flasher button. The system has a useful “Best Lap” feature that displays the lap time flashing for 5 seconds if it is the best recorded lap time in the current track session. For each lap, and for a total of 15 consecutive laps, the lap time, max rpm and top speed are stored; this information can be viewed on the instrument panel by accessing the special menu. The DLT GPS is part of the standard equipment on the Panigale V4 Speciale and is available as a Ducati Performance plugandplay accessory for the Panigale V4 and Panigale V4 S.

Ducati Data Analyser + GPS (DDA+ GPS)
The Ducati Data Analyser + GPS (DDA + GPS), evaluates the performance of the motorcycle and its rider by graphically presenting specific channels of information. The DDA + GPS is an essential piece of equipment for track use: it monitors the rider’s performance, in addition to automatically recording and displaying lap times whenever the Panigale V4 crosses the finish line. It stores a number of data channels including throttle opening, vehicle speed, engine rpm, gear engaged, engine temperature, distance travelled, rpm and DTC index. DDA + GPS is available as a Ducati Performance plugandplay accessory, while it is supplied as standard with the Speciale."


Even though most likely available as data channel, even the workshop manual is INcorrect about the "engine temperature" channel being passed through to the DDA Analyser Software!
 
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Aug 2019
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I believe that the channel is there but is ghosted to avoid some " interesting " info about the running temperatures.
Anyway I hope " some expert " could enlight us on how to open the channel.
I am also PERSONALLY interested in a lean angle info on the dashboard(that gives for few seconds the max lean angle,so you can have a glance after the turn,similar to the one shown on motogp race).
I think the new Honda CBR RR SP has something like that
 
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I believe that the channel is there but is ghosted to avoid some " interesting " info about the running temperatures.
Really? That sounds like a typical Italian coverup to me! ;p

Would also also explain:
- why all V4 Pani's will get the wider more airy shark gilled 'R': bringing engine temperature down for better engine component longevity and clutch-fade mitigating in 1 blow!
- Prosa (i.e. Marco/ @mpita), since his last reply here on October 14th, is not replying to our recent DDA improvement requests (i.e. adding more data-channels like engine-temp) anymore? Total silence...

Anyway I hope " some expert " could enlight us on how to open the channel.
Since Marco (@mpita) already replied to us "format is proprietary and copyrighted". I doubt that anybody but Prosa can do this?...

I am also PERSONALLY interested in a lean angle info on the dashboard
Indeed and that's exactly what the Ducati linkapp is displaying in realtime via the DMS module already!



So why not also both in the V4 display and as data channel for DDA as well?

Sadly quite some issues still with V4 and DMS module. As I tried to explain here
 
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Really? That sounds like a typical Italian coverup to me! ;p

Would also also explain:
- why all V4 Pani's will get the wider more airy shark gilled 'R': bringing engine temperature down for better engine component longevity and clutch-fade mitigating in 1 blow!
- Prosa (i.e. Marco/ @mpita), since his last reply here on October 14th, is not replying to our recent DDA improvement requests (i.e. adding more data-channels like engine-temp) anymore? Total silence...



Since Marco (@mpita) already replied to us "format is proprietary and copyrighted". I doubt that anybody but Prosa can do this?...


Indeed and that's exactly what the Ducati linkapp is displaying in realtime via the DMS module already! So why not in the V4 display and as data channel for DDA as well?
Sadly quite some issues still with V4 and DMS module...

Indeed

I hope they are reading this and the Italian's site as well