Panigale V4 Ohlins TTX GP Rear Shock Info

jarelj

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Looks like we'll start getting Ohlins TTX shocks for upgrading the base Panigale V4 in May, the new part number is going to be DU468, at $1375 MSRP. As far as spring rates on the shocks, they're just a little stiffer compared to the 1199/1299 Panigale spring rates due to the new linkage. Here are the initial spring rate guidelines from Ohlins we're working with, it may evolve slightly over time but this is going to be very close:

Weight w/Gear - Spring Rate:
150 and under - 90 N/mm
160-180 - 95 N/mm
190-200 - 100 N/mm
210-220 - 105 N/mm
230-240 - 110 N/mm
250 and up - 115 N/mm

The springs on the shocks are a new model number 21056 (also on OEM shock on Panigale V4S), however they're the same dimension as an existing Ohlins spring 21040 which was used on the prior generation Superbike (1098/1198). Most Ohlins dealers will have a bunch of 21040 springs lying around already so no waiting on parts. The new spring 21056-31 (95 N/mm rate) is the OEM spring for the Panigale V4S model, and there are no other rates available for that spring. So if you want an alternate spring rate, you'll see the 20140 spring number on it, just FYI.

We have the shocks listed on our web site now for pre-orders, expected to ship early May:
Ohlins TTX GP Shock DU468 - Panigale V4

Also, if you have a Panigale V4S and want an alternate spring rate for your shock, we have those available here:
Öhlins Shock Spring - Panigale V4

Our Panigale V4 track testing starts April 16th, so we should have more setup information and guidelines after that point. Can't wait!! :cool:
 
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Not a suspension guy, but I'm assuming we can use forks from previous gen? such as the Rs?

Or the Showas good enough?
 

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Not a suspension guy, but I'm assuming we can use forks from previous gen? such as the Rs?

Or the Showas good enough?
It's always possible to swap things around, just depends on which model and what the diameter of the tubes are, if different then the triples need to be swapped too. We have a set of Ohlins gas-charged FGR forks going on a V4 we're building for the track right now for example. The Showa BP is actually a pretty decent fork, much better than the Marzocchis on the base 1199/1299. Still doesn't have enough compressing damping for advanced track use, but a set of Andreani valves or NIX30 cartridges would take care of that.
 
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Hello Jarel,

The stock spring on my 2020 Panigale V4 916 25 Anniversario is: 21056-31/95 so it has the same rate as 2019 bikes.

While, from my understanding, the 2020 Panigale V4S came standard with 85N/mm, softer rate than the 2019 model and improve the handling.
but Scott Redding who weight 170 pounds actually prefer to lower the spring rate on the 2020 Panigale V4s he rode in Valencia even more to just 80N/mm
Ducati Motor Holding on LinkedIn: Unbelievable onboard lap @Valencia + My thoughts on the 2020 Panigale | 35 comments

My weight is only 140 to 145 pounds, what do you think will be a good spring rate for me?
Should I went with 75N/mm or even 70N/mm? I am also hoping the softer spring rate will slightly lower the riding position and better suit my height.
Do you have this lower rate spring in stock?

Thanks
 
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Hello Jarel,

The stock spring on my 2020 Panigale V4 916 25 Anniversario is: 21056-31/95 so it has the same rate as 2019 bikes.

While, from my understanding, the 2020 Panigale V4S came standard with 85N/mm, softer rate than the 2019 model and improve the handling.
but Scott Redding who weight 170 pounds actually prefer to lower the spring rate on the 2020 Panigale V4s he rode in Valencia even more to just 80N/mm
Ducati Motor Holding on LinkedIn: Unbelievable onboard lap @Valencia + My thoughts on the 2020 Panigale | 35 comments

My weight is only 140 to 145 pounds, what do you think will be a good spring rate for me?
Should I went with 75N/mm or even 70N/mm? I am also hoping the softer spring rate will slightly lower the riding position and better suit my height.
Do you have this lower rate spring in stock?

Thanks
Hi, I was speaking to the Ohlins technician that set up Scott's bike he used for testing in the UK. It was a base V4, and he was using it to learn the circuits. The only change they made from a stock bike, was the rear shock. And they used a 110 spring.
My V4R came with a 105 spring as standard. Feels good, I only use the bike on track.
 

jarelj

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Hello Jarel,

The stock spring on my 2020 Panigale V4 916 25 Anniversario is: 21056-31/95 so it has the same rate as 2019 bikes.

While, from my understanding, the 2020 Panigale V4S came standard with 85N/mm, softer rate than the 2019 model and improve the handling.
but Scott Redding who weight 170 pounds actually prefer to lower the spring rate on the 2020 Panigale V4s he rode in Valencia even more to just 80N/mm
Ducati Motor Holding on LinkedIn: Unbelievable onboard lap @Valencia + My thoughts on the 2020 Panigale | 35 comments

My weight is only 140 to 145 pounds, what do you think will be a good spring rate for me?
Should I went with 75N/mm or even 70N/mm? I am also hoping the softer spring rate will slightly lower the riding position and better suit my height.
Do you have this lower rate spring in stock?

Thanks
The new 2020 bikes have a revised linkage and use a lighter spring rate with more preload. I wouldn't go that low on the spring rate on the prior V4's, 90 is pretty much the lightest rate we've ran on them.
 
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The new 2020 bikes have a revised linkage and use a lighter spring rate with more preload. I wouldn't go that low on the spring rate on the prior V4's, 90 is pretty much the lightest rate we've ran on them.
Thank You for the advise Jarel
 

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I have the TTX GP shock installed on my 2019 V4 base model. Here's my data point:
I weight 190 lbs with gear and have the 100 N/mm spring with preload set to 10 turns from full soft giving about 30 mm rear sag, and the bike feels pretty balanced to me with good grip.