Track question, lap time related.

Jul 2019
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10
seattle
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Any and all bikes can use help in the same areas, tires, suspension, engine (ecu flash), exhaust, brakes, wheels, grips, levers, rearsets, seats, frame/swingarm adjustments etc. Stock bikes are far faster than 99% of the riders. To get your bikes limit, it's all about you, not your machine.

Work on the part between the ears, that is where you get faster. Your bike is already faster than you are. The easier you make the bike to go faster, the bigger the gap between your brains and your bikes capabilities.

You really wanna learn to go fast on any bike you start flat tracking and learn how to handle a bike thats moving underneath you and make it go in the direction you want while it aint pointed that way.
 
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Jul 2014
44
40
Los Angeles
I didn't explain in my original post, but this was an instructional Academy, that also had prizes for the biggest lap time/consistency/smoothness improvement. I agree with you on the fact that the bike doesn't need much more speed. But for a $100, why not install grippier pegs for better bike ergonomics. $370 BREMBO 19 RCS Corsa Corta, what a difference in feeling and precise brake control. And finally changing the front fork oil to 10 W really helped with the front suspension. These are all well worth mods that help with bike control. Same goes with the $50 tank pad, for better tank grip.
I spent $2795 for instruction in this last Academy, fyi. So, trust me, I know the importance of it.



1. Instruction
2. Instruction
3. Instruction

Any and all bikes can use help in the same areas, tires, suspension, engine (ecu flash), exhaust, brakes, wheels, grips, levers, rearsets, seats, frame/swingarm adjustments etc. Stock bikes are far faster than 99% of the riders. To get your bikes limit, it's all about you, not your machine.

Work on the part between the ears, that is where you get faster. Your bike is already faster than you are. The easier you make the bike to go faster, the bigger the gap between your brains and your bikes capabilities.

You really wanna learn to go fast on any bike you start flat tracking and learn how to handle a bike thats moving underneath you and make it go in the direction you want while it aint pointed that way.
 
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Apr 2012
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206
Irvine, CA
Suspension setup goes hand-in-hand with good tires, proper pressure and warming. Stock tires are the correct size and offer DOT race tire grip after 2-3 laps w/o warmers. Changing to 200/55 DOT or even the 200/60 slicks will change the handling of the V4 and should be compensated for by someone who understands chassis setup. The ABS system on the bike is quite good and race-able so no need to mess with it. Stock pads are also very good but Vesrah RJL XX or Brembo Z04 are better. Stomp Grip and a grippy seat with make a huge difference in helping you to keep you NOT use you arms too much.
 
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Apr 2012
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Irvine, CA
I didn't explain in my original post, but this was an instructional Academy, that also had prizes for the biggest lap time/consistency/smoothness improvement. I agree with you on the fact that the bike doesn't need much more speed. But for a $100, why not install grippier pegs for better bike ergonomics. $370 BREMBO 19 RCS Corsa Corta, what a difference in feeling and precise brake control. And finally changing the front fork oil to 10 W really helped with the front suspension. These are all well worth mods that help with bike control. Same goes with the $50 tank pad, for better tank grip.
I spent $2795 for instruction in this last Academy, fyi. So, trust me, I know the importance of it.
Not sure why you would increase the viscosity of the fork oil. What is your weight and lap time at Fontana? Sounds like you are under-sprung.
 
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Jul 2014
44
40
Los Angeles
I was on the Sc2 slicks 200/60, I wanted to try the SC1 but the weather too cold. Changed the pads to EBC GPFAX, have a raceseats.it seat with integrated tank extender and I always ride with stomp grips. I had Dax work on the suspension when I was there. Talked to several people who set up their suspensions for the track/race and they recommended to increase the viscosity. I weigh 200 pounds without the gear and lap time is 1:38 now. (started the academy at 1:45 previous month)

Not sure why you would increase the viscosity of the fork oil. What is your weight and lap time at Fontana? Sounds like you are under-sprung.
 
Sep 2019
28
13
London
Only use Ohlins fork oil in Ohlins forks. They are designed around that specific oil.

Change the springs. Which is also easier to do than changing the oil.
 
Sep 2019
28
13
London
Standard springs are 10Nm.

Buy a selection of individual springs:
9.5
9.0
10.5
11

You'll be able to cover every eventuality then.