What are everyones thoughts on the 'NEW' 2020 V4's

Oct 2017
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My local dealer has a demo 2020S in the showroom and he offered to let me take it out then take out a new but leftover 2019S. They can’t sell the 2020 one though. It’s demo only. So I sat on them and you can fell it’s a bit wider up front. So they offered a deal on the new 2019 and a demo 2019 as well. So I’m just going over the numbers.
 
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Apr 2017
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I got to sit on both a 19 and 20 S. It’s definitely wider and TBH, I like the wider feel. I’ve come to the conclusion that my 1299S is too narrow for my tastes.

The fit and finish of the V4’s is a step up from 1299. The price of the V4S is almost untouchable and 30K was supposed to be for the signature series not the S. The cycle manufacturers are going to learn quickly that these rising prices is ultimately going to result in longer trade cycles. If I buy a 30k cycle on a 5 year loan, I’m not buying a new cycle for 5 years.

I ride around with my S in the fixed position which defeats all the continuous adjustments, and I can set my own sag now so I may move away from an S. Don’t know, it’s between the V4 and Aprilia for my next bike, just waiting for Aprilia to come with an all new.
 
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The extra width sort of made it feel like in inline 4. Not exact but that’s what it sort of felt like. I like a more narrow feel myself, but fat bottom girls make the world go round. So I think it’s a choice for me between a 19S demo with 450 miles on it for X or a new leftover 19S for Y. The demo has about a year left on the warranty and they assure me all of the recalls have been done, oil line and other items.
 
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Jan 2020
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you guys think for a shorter rider looking to get a v4, 2019 vs 2020 will make much of a difference as you state 2020 is a bit wider?, im like 5'5 with a 31 inseam. i havnt sat on one yet, but this spring plan on it
 
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I sat on one, I’m 5’9” you should go sit on a floor model.
The original owner of my 1299 lowered it cause he was shorter and it ruined its ride ability, would fight me turning into corners, it sucked. Raised it back up and I can’t flat foot it anymore but it handles amazing!
If you can shift ur butt over a bit when you stop, you’ll be able to flat foot the new V4. I read somewhere the 2020 is even higher than the 18/19 models

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The 2020V4 is a pretty tall bike. Better go sit on one and take a test ride. I’m tall so I have no issues getting my feet down when stopped, but my knees are pretty bent once my feet are on the pegs and I’m riding. I’d like to get rear sets that lower the pegs a bit. If you like a more compact bike I suggest the Aprilia.
 
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Apr 2017
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So coming full circle said:
To answer this question from someone who is in product marketing for a auto company, the answer is no.

The V4R buyer still has visual product differentiation in the tank and it’s a little unmistakable difference, and one that’s too costly for the non V4R owners to decide to buy.

I will admit while at the Ready For Red event I mistakenly thought an 20S was an R because of the wings, but once I was told about wings on the 20’s I no longer make that mistake.

The V4R buyer wants the pinnacle of performance, and can afford a 40k cycle, they are no stepping down cause the Non R’s have wings.

Just my 2 cents
 
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Anyone else see the 2020 review by 44teeth? They say the throttle values have been electronically changed resulting in a smoother and faster bike regarding lap times, albeit a slower and less passionate experience.