1199 fork disassembly

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ahing6

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Hi all.....1199 Panigale from Trinidad

Am about to change seals on a 1199.
So far am stuck at removing the inner cartridge.
I removed the nut from bottom of fork and have top cap off.
That is as far as i reached.

Any advice will be appreciated
 

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if its like any upside down fork, you'll need to compress the spring down enough to undo the nut to take off the fork cap to pull it all apart.
 
You need to remove the red compression adjuster in the fork lower to get the cartridge out.
 
On topic, anything of note to look for on the internals, ala bladder issues, etc.? About to pull mine apart for flushing and a refill with fresh fluid. Generally a simple job, but not sure about this model fork. Refill as normal like you would with Ohlins, etc?
 
fireman1251 said:
Wouldn't touch them with a 10' pole:eek:
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Can't help myself - gotta get my hands in there! ;) As an old motocrosser taking forks and shocks apart is pretty straightforward to me. Can't do a shock at home these days, but forks are relatively easy. Worst case I end up with a 30MM Ohlins kit in it if I can't make it behave better, and that's probably the way it'll end up sooner or later anyway. Unless the bladder design is just a bad idea they should be tweakable to work fairly well. Would be nice if there was a manual available for that model RAC50. :rolleyes:
 
hey thanks Jarel...it was staring me right in the face and i never considered the red lower comp nut. Got so used to Jap forks.

Am also surprised how easy the clearances of parts fit. Teflon bushing and seal went in not much force with seal driver, 3 taps and in.
Very light weight, only downside ....bend easy.
This bike was bought damaged and the lower triple clamp stay snapped off causing the upper slider to hit the frame full right lock.
Visually all is good but on taking apart forks, realised it was binding to slide apart or compress.
Well the tiny dent in dent on upper section caused the inner leg to bind grind off black nitride.
The way engineers sacrifice integrity and light weight for minimum strenght.
 

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Steve B said:
Can't help myself - gotta get my hands in there! ;) As an old motocrosser taking forks and shocks apart is pretty straightforward to me. Can't do a shock at home these days, but forks are relatively easy. Worst case I end up with a 30MM Ohlins kit in it if I can't make it behave better, and that's probably the way it'll end up sooner or later anyway. Unless the bladder design is just a bad idea they should be tweakable to work fairly well. Would be nice if there was a manual available for that model RAC50. :rolleyes:
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Well all i did was remove cartridge and replaced seals, did not feel like taking apart anything else....especially after discovering damaged right side fork.
So nothing to report on that. But nothing too tech am sure u cant handle. Am a former m-crosser DIY rider too.
 
Fork Dimensions

Does anybody happen to have the fork spring dimensions?

I need to order some softer springs because I only weigh 120lbs.

Any help will be appreciated. Just need the diameter, and length of the stock 1199 Base Model springs.

Also if I disassemble the fork, and put in a new spring, will i need to somehow "pressurize" the forks? Or what is this Pressurized thing im hearing about.
 
krolinked said:
Does anybody happen to have the fork spring dimensions?

I need to order some softer springs because I only weigh 120lbs.

Any help will be appreciated. Just need the diameter, and length of the stock 1199 Base Model springs.

Also if I disassemble the fork, and put in a new spring, will i need to somehow "pressurize" the forks? Or what is this Pressurized thing im hearing about.
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Not sure if you are in the US or not, but Ducati of Omaha sells different weight springs.

Check out this link: Ohlins Fork Springs - Ducati Panigale 1199 | OHLINS-FS

I didn't see the diameter listed here, but was planning to order heavier springs for the forks and the rear as I am over 200lb.

Good luck.
 
krolinked said:
Does anybody happen to have the fork spring dimensions?

I need to order some softer springs because I only weigh 120lbs.

Any help will be appreciated. Just need the diameter, and length of the stock 1199 Base Model springs.

Also if I disassemble the fork, and put in a new spring, will i need to somehow "pressurize" the forks? Or what is this Pressurized thing im hearing about.
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I will try to remember to measure my OEM springs this weekend and post up. But no, you don't have to do anything to pressurize the forks when you change springs. Besides, the Marzocchis don't really have a pressurized cartridge anyway; the bladder they use serves to emulate the function of a pressurized cartridge.
 
Awesome! I'm sure the spring measurements will be very useful to anybody searching in the future as well.
 
normal forks, when you try to remove the damping rod, you turn rebound out all the way, but the marzocchi specifically needs to turn the rebound all the way in before removing the cap. check out the marzocchi 50mm fork service manual, it's very similar to the OEM panigale fork.
 
I have fork and shock springs on order from Ducati Omaha. Are there any special tools needed for swapping the fork springs besides the special top cap 'wrench'.

I've done my own fork service on my dirt bikes and did a complete tear down and rebuild of a Fox Twin Clicker shock so I'm not scared to pull them apart but I've always had good step by step instructions to follow and haven't been able to find them for the Ohlins on the new R.
 
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Sorry for not getting this up sooner; I had er, hidden the box with the springs in it from myself... :eek:

Here's what my trusty calipers say:

The Marzocchi OEM spring (a 10N rate), has a 250mm overall length, 42mm outside diameter (about 40 at the seats, since it tapers at the ends). Coil thickness is 5.17mm, coil-to-coil distance is 17.2mm and there are 14.25 free coils.

I'm currently running split rates with an Ohlins 9.5N spring on one side and an OEM on the other. The Ohlins 9.5 is the same 250mm length, but has 4.97mm coils, 39.9mm diameter all the way, a 16.2mm coil-to-coil distance and has 15 free coils.

Those numbers generate pretty close to the spec'ed rates plugged into a spring calculator, so they should be reasonably accurate.
 
You're awesome Steve, thanks man!
Just to clarify though, you have the base model 1199 correct?

Steve B said:
Sorry for not getting this up sooner; I had er, hidden the box with the springs in it from myself... :eek:

Here's what my trusty calipers say:

The Marzocchi OEM spring (a 10N rate), has a 250mm overall length, 42mm outside diameter (about 40 at the seats, since it tapers at the ends). Coil thickness is 5.17mm, coil-to-coil distance is 17.2mm and there are 14.25 free coils.

I'm currently running split rates with an Ohlins 9.5N spring on one side and an OEM on the other. The Ohlins 9.5 is the same 250mm length, but has 4.97mm coils, 39.9mm diameter all the way, a 16.2mm coil-to-coil distance and has 15 free coils.

Those numbers generate pretty close to the spec'ed rates plugged into a spring calculator, so they should be reasonably accurate.
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