1199R Akrapovic/UpMap/RapiBike

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I know this topic has been discussed, and I did search, but didn't find exactly what I'm looking for. I have a Panigale R with the full Termi and UpMap. I'm replacing the Termi with an Akrapovic system and adding a RapiBike. Does anyone know if the UpMap changes ignition timing or just fueling? Trying to figure out which combo I want to run, meaning RapidBike Race with no UpMap, or RapidBike Evo with UpMap, etc. Not sure which configuration is best. Any help? Thanks in advance!
 
RapidBike race with no upmap. Gives you the ignition mapping plus other features. No brainer.
 
As Leon said. RapidBike race is the way to go, no upmap needed. Sell the full termi system with the upmap to offset the cost of the Akrapovic and RapidBike race.

If you have any doubts or questions regarding it, you can always call Cycle Pro and they can talk you off the ledge.
 
Rapid Bike race was the best aftermarket purchase I did for this bike and the RAPIDBIKE quick shifter
 
Hi guys I currently have the Rapid Bike Evo with Termi slip ons. When going to the Akra full system do I still need to retain the Termi upmap?
 
Thanks lamb00j reason I ask is I noticed you guys talking about the ignition mapping as I only have the Evo unit and not the race that comes with the map
 
I still don't see where the issue is with exhausts and new fuelling/ignition modules.

I'm running my 2014 1199 R with full Akrapovic EVO system, no mods, just the Ducati full system Up-Map.

I have no problems, no lean burn etc. starting issues, nothing.

Save your time and money. Sure you might get a couple more horses, but you'll get that from any module and dyno time on a stock bike with a stock exhaust.
 
I am considering the RapidBike module here due to the altitude and what I understand is the ability for the EVO version to "learn" a bit a you ride?

I'm sure I could get away with the Up-Map but for a little bit more I might have the ability to dial it in perfect.

Now I have the slip-ons I will make the call after I fire her up at 7,000 MSL.
 
Mutt1979 said:
I still don't see where the issue is with exhausts and new fuelling/ignition modules.

I'm running my 2014 1199 R with full Akrapovic EVO system, no mods, just the Ducati full system Up-Map.

I have no problems, no lean burn etc. starting issues, nothing.

Save your time and money. Sure you might get a couple more horses, but you'll get that from any module and dyno time on a stock bike with a stock exhaust.
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The important thing to understand about the RB module is that there is no need to have it dyno tuned. It adapts to altitude, gas, and temp. Are dyno shops tuning every gear plus ignition timing? Also, if you want to go GP shift, the RB quick shifter module is far cheaper than the Ducati sensor. And it has adjustability that you can't do with the Ducati sensor. The Arab module is more than just an air/fuel tuning module. It's so much more.
 
Ljuice26 said:
The important thing to understand about the RB module is that there is no need to have it dyno tuned. It adapts to altitude, gas, and temp. Are dyno shops tuning every gear plus ignition timing? Also, if you want to go GP shift, the RB quick shifter module is far cheaper than the Ducati sensor. And it has adjustability that you can't do with the Ducati sensor. The Arab module is more than just an air/fuel tuning module. It's so much more.
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I understand the advantages and features they can provide over the stock equipment.

I was always lead to believe that the standard ECU was an intelligent ECU, as you say, that learns and adapts as you ride and change conditions?
 
I read all threads about RB, Akra, Termi and Upmap related topics.
To be honest, I'm getting more and more confused.

Okay, here is my situation:
Tricolore 2012: Street legal Ducati exhaust currently installed.
I have the "race" Termi slipons and the upmap stick in a box delivered with the bike, never used.
I am going to install the Akra full Ti systems next month.
There is no way I find somebody trustful here in Switzerland that could dyno my bike.
After all reading I dont want to install Tuneboy because the lack of support.

So: Am I correct if I replace the exhaust with the Akra full system, remove the servo motor and replace it with an removal adaptor (e.g. DUC.EE from VIZI-TEC, whether it's necessary or not), re-install the lambda probes and install RB module, that the bike works as it should? And if so, should I upmap with the Termi stick or not?

Sorry for asking: it's just that I am not experienced at all with this kind of performance tuning, I'm the bling guy... :)
 
Mutt1979 said:
I understand the advantages and features they can provide over the stock equipment.

I was always lead to believe that the standard ECU was an intelligent ECU, as you say, that learns and adapts as you ride and change conditions?
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The OEM ECU has some capacity for AFR adjustment, albeit tremendously limited compared to the RapidBike module, and no ignition mapping changes other than what the factory releases in any updates (none have come in over a year).

For me, this is the bottom line on what a RapidBike Race module does for an 1199. The dyno chart below shows 2 runs on my bike, with the lower output one being run with the RapidBike Bypass Module plugged in. This means that the RapidBike module is disabled completely and the only fuel/ignition tuning was only provided by the Termignoni Up-Map that came with their Slip-On exhaust. The only mods to the bike were Termi slip-ons, MWR HE air filter and 14T front sprocket. The second run shows the RapidBike Race module enabled and tuning on top of the Termi Up-Map. It is important to note that the Termi Up-Map is NOT NECESSARY after the install of the RapidBike Race module. It provides both real-time AFR correction and new ignition maps to make the most of more air flow from exhaust and intake mods.


 

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